Hi, Apparently, it is not recommended to use autonomous transactions to avoid mutating table errors, as documented in Metalink Note:65961.1: "As all database changes are part of a transaction, if a parent has modified data, but not committed it at the point the autonomous transaction begins, then those modifications are not visible to the child...It is important to remember that if a trigger is running as an autonomous transaction, although it still has access to :OLD and :NEW values as appropriate, it does not see any rows inserted into the table by the calling transaction. Thus, using an autonomous trigger to obtain a maximum value currently in the table...[in other words, a mutating table scenario]...is unlikely to work." Cheers, Tony. -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Jahnke [mailto:Stefan.Jahnke@xxxxxx] Sent: 17 February 2004 09:21 To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: AW: What do you use autonomous transactions for? Hi That's a good idea. I think the only drawback here is: What if part of your work done within the trigger is ok, before you encounter a problem. You can't rollback what you've done in your AT then. You would have to do a "roll-your-own"-rollback by keeping track of what you changed and issuing a second AT to undo your work. That might be a real performance problem, depending of how often your triggers are executed and what kind of work they're supposed to do. Stefan -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: David.Schmoldt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:David.Schmoldt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Februar 2004 00:29 An: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Betreff: RE: What do you use autonomous transactions for? I *think* I read you can use autonomous transactions in table triggers = to avoid some mutating table situations. Haven't tried it myself. I do use them a lot in logging the progress of long-running jobs, = logging errors before rollback, etc. Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Powell, Mark D [mailto:mark.powell@xxxxxxx] > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 1:29 PM > To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' > Subject: RE: What do you use autonomous transactions for? > > > I would think that error message logging, debugging, and > auditing are the > primary uses of user created anonymous transactions. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ryan > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 2:21 PM > To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: What do you use autonomous transactions for? > > > The only thing I have used them for is logging dbms_jobs to > tables. I do not > want the transaction to commit, but I want to track my progress. > What have you used them for? 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