Thanks Richard and Alex. Richard made the same points I was trying to make to the D.A. about reworking the portions that are causing problems. Alex made some very good points and asked some questions I hadn't thought about. I will definitely be asking some more questions. I have no opposition to caching, I just want to make sure I understand what we're trying to accomplish and that we do our due diligence before signing off on yet another piece of software that didn't gain us anything and might have the potential to make it worse. Sure would be nice if we had a way to do load testing. Still waiting for Oracle to get an 11g version for our platform. Such is life. -- Sandy Transzap, Inc.