Re: Slow create table statement

  • From: Lothar Flatz <l.flatz@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 10:08:48 +0200

On the previous estimate (NL one) I would check the high and low values for the join key PERSON_SK.
Is this a growing value? What is the meaning behind table REQ_27333_DX_ENCNTR?
Wonder if the time difference for the stats make a difference on the join estimate.

Regards

Lothar

Am 11.07.2020 um 09:24 schrieb Jonathan Lewis:


Ram,

I see the plan did a broadcast - which was necessary for the best performance - but I was a little surprised to see that it didn't do a partition iterator for the parallelism on the big table, given that the degree was 8 and the number of partitions was 32 (viz: a multiple of 8). However, that probably wouldn't have made very much difference.  The minimal improvement at the higher degree was probably because DOP 32 probably pushed you into queueing at the disc, it's counter-intuitive but you might find 16 (e.g.) is better than 32.

It looks as if someone, or something, may have gathered some stats since the nested loop run. The cardinality estimate for the hash join is now 15M when the estimate for the nested loop was 2.8M: if the stats hadn't changed the cardinality estimate wouldn't change; and a factor of 5 on the NL cost might have been enough to push it into a hash join automatically.

Regards
Jonathan Lewis



On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 2:14 AM Ram Raman <veeeraman@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:veeeraman@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

    Jonathan, I hinted to use HASH join, and as you said it was lot
    faster - returns in15 mins overall. Tried increasing the
    parallelism upto 32, but I only gain 2 mins with higher degrees.
    Here is the same document with the new statement towards the end:
    
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hIUHbVfBxsvJz5zC3g5ZZGRg99MPz6p7/view?usp=sharing

    Now I need to find out why it was not using the HASH in the first
    place without hint and also see if I can make it even faster.

    On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 4:57 PM Ram Raman <veeeraman@xxxxxxxxx
    <mailto:veeeraman@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

        Thanks Jonathan. There is no compression, but many
        columns dont have values in them. I am bit puzzled by the
        naming convention, but that is a different topic
        What you said makes good sense. It doesnt make sense to access
        them by nested loops. Here are the big table stats:


                        NUM_ROWS       BLOCKS LAST_ANAL AVG_ROW_LEN
         CHAIN_CNT
        ------------------------ ------------ --------- -----------
        ----------
                   1,738,075,641   40,228,648 24-JUN-20     371          0

        Only one block size for the whole DB:

        SQL> sho parameter db_block_size
        NAME                                 TYPE                   VALUE
        ------------------------------------
        -------------------------------- ------------------------------
        db_block_size                        integer                  8192

        Partitions stats for the big table:

        PARTITION SUBPARTIT PARTITION_COUNT STATUS
        --------- --------- --------------- --------
        HASH      NONE                   32 VALID

        I did some calculation myself. If the query has to retrieve
        14M rows from the big table, given the average row length is
        371 and hence rows per block is about 22, it has to visit 634K
        blocks. Does not make sense to do nested loop join for that.
        Let me try a HASH join hint

        Thanks
        Ram.



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