Re: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats
- From: Mladen Gogala <mladen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 13:51:32 -0500
It cannot be a DBA problem, because DBA is a superior being which is always
right.
Saying that something is a DBA's fault is contradictio in adjecto. It's like
perpetuum mobile: a myth refuted by all serious database administrators.
Remember the following:
1) I am thy DBA and don't have any other DBA's but me.
2) Remember to celebrate the day of the DBA.
3) Don't take thy DBA's name in vain.
There is more, but I'm not in the mood right now, because of the wrong
surrounding.
I'll bring you the tablets some other time.
On 03/22/2004 12:46:17 PM, ryan.gaffuri@xxxxxxx wrote:
> It's not a 'developer' problem. It's a team and management problem. It's also
> a lack of technical skill amongst Developer's and/or DBA problem.
>
>
> >
> > From: Mladen Gogala <mladen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: 2004/03/22 Mon PM 12:31:53 EST
> > To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats
> >
> > Yes, that's true. One thing to remember when talking about developers is
> > that work liberates, or in German: "Arbeit Macht Frei". Good organization
> > is the final solution of the developer problem. Of course, I'm a DBA,
> > in case anyone had any doubts.
> >
> > On 03/22/2004 12:15:33 PM, Juan Cachito Reyes Pacheco wrote:
> > > This is true ryan,
> > > But comments like "Controlling developers is like herding cats"
> > > Seems that someone have problems organizing the work,
> > > Independently of who is responsible of that, they must be solved.
> > >
> > > The point is if some one wants to talk about their problems as dba,
> > > working with other people and how to solve them.
> > > I have some experience and this could be interesting, sahre ideas found to
> > > solve them.
> > > Now if no body have problems with that then there is no reason for this
> > > post.
> > > :)
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <ryan.gaffuri@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 1:11 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Controlling developers is like herding cats
> > >
> > >
> > > > your question is vague. what do you mean by organizing developers. its
> > > > not
> > > the DBAs responsibility to do that. It's their management's
> > > responsibility.
> > > >
> > > > what do you mean?
> > > > >
> > > > > From: "Juan Cachito Reyes Pacheco" <jreyes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Date: 2004/03/22 Mon AM 10:32:06 EST
> > > > > To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Subject: Controlling developers is like herding cats
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know if some dba, want to talk about the way to solve
> > > > > organizing a group of developer (including times, work to be done,
> > > > > quality control, etc.)
> > > > > We have some experience, and had developed a software for internal
> > > > > use,
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe someone want to talk about this, I think this is a critical work
> > > > > for the dba.
> > > > >
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