The more difficult parts of the job to do by yourself include: 1. Store the plans in a database. 2. Recognize when two statements are similar (e.g., identical except for literal values) and store only one copy instead of two. 3. Write a smart differencing engine that can do the right set intersections, set differences, etc. 4. Perform data collection directly from the application source code = instead of waiting for everything to execute before you have a complete set. www.hotsos.com/products/laredo.html explains how we do it, if you're interested. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com * Nullius in verba * Upcoming events: - Performance Diagnosis 101: 7/20 Cleveland, 8/10 Boston, 9/14 San = Francisco - SQL Optimization 101: 7/26 Washington DC, 8/16 Minneapolis, 9/20 = Hartford - Hotsos Symposium 2005: March 6-10 Dallas - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Freeman Robert - IL Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:42 AM To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ' Subject: RE: Hot indexes How about sweeping through v$sql_plan on a regular basis? Of course, = the problem with either v$sql_plan or v$sqlarea is aging if you are getting = lots of unreusable SQL... I've been tinkering with a job that sweeps = v$sql_plan on a regular basis and, based on some defined criteria marks certain SQL statements as worthy of further review... RF -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 7/12/2004 10:11 AM Subject: RE: Hot indexes That's what we do with our Laredo product: capture SQL from various =3D sources, run EXPLAIN PLAN, store the results in a database, and then use a smart comparison tool to do reporting. It works very well. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com * Nullius in verba * Upcoming events: - Performance Diagnosis 101: 7/20 Cleveland, 8/10 Boston, 9/14 San =3D Francisco - SQL Optimization 101: 7/26 Washington DC, 8/16 Minneapolis, 9/20 =3D Hartford - Hotsos Symposium 2005: March 6-10 Dallas - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details... -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =3D [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DENNIS WILLIAMS Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 7:18 AM To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: RE: Hot indexes When this question was asked earlier, one suggestion was to capture = =3D3D samples of the SQL in v$sql, then run it through EXPLAIN PLAN to find SQL =3D3D statements that are using indexes in this tablespace. I don't recall the success = =3D =3D3D or failure of this method being posted. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. dwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D3D20 I said it "looked" clear - Riddick -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mogens N=3D3DF8rgaard Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2004 11:55 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Hot indexes If it really is a problem (somebody complaining, devices being=3D3D20 overloaded, whatever), then you would need to track which =3D user(s)/apps=3D3D20 issued the LIO calls to the datablock adresses of this tablespace. Tracking of individual LIO calls including the file number, block =3D3D number=3D3D20 and number of blocks is externalized in v$session_wait and in = 10046=3D3D20 trace files (excluding exotic direct memory access methods and probably =3D =3D3D some decent 3rd party tools). So putting on 10046 level 8 trace on your whole instance will show =3D it,=3D3D20 but will require at least 42 GB of storage for the trace files and =3D 42=3D3D20 days to interpret the results afterwards :). Mogens solbeach@xxxxxxx wrote: > I can see that one tablespace which contains only a few > indexes is doing many, many reads. > How do I track back to the SQL & user(s) behind this activity? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------