Good day, List, I am attempting to understand the linguistic nuances of how Oracle implements various character sets (territory and language). I have found a number of useful white papers, metalink notes (and of course the Globalization online Docs are good), but I have stumbled upon an obstacle of sorts (tongue in cheek). Metalink note 13882.1 (*Linguistic Sorting of Data in Oracle7 and Oracle8*) talks about major and minor values, and also mentions the WB# (used internally). I am assuming this information is still valid in 9i and 10g, as there are no other newer metalink documents that cover these specific details (that I have found). So, for instance, capital A grave (À) is listed with a major value of 20, minor 5 (WB# = 300). I also noticed that the online documentation has a small sample glyph table<http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/server.102/b14225/ch5lingsort.htm#g1010269>with slightly different values (and despite the little NOTE below the table, I get the same results in a non-unicode character set as a unicode one). How do I expose that in sql? I assume NLSSORT gives me the proper numbers, but I am not sure how to reverse engineer the output. The following example is from 10gR2 AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P1: SQL > alter session set nls_comp = LINGUISTIC; Session altered. SQL > alter session set NLS_SORT=generic_m; Session altered. SQL > select nlssort('A') from dual; NLSSORT('A') -------------- 01EA0000020006 SQL > select nlssort('À') from dual; NLSSORT('À') ---------------- 01EA0000020D0006 I set the nls_comp and nls_sort parameters because the default (binary sorting) only gave me basic ascii values for the sort numbers, which is not what I want. I am not overly familiar with either parameter yet, so it is possible I could be using a "better" or easier nls_sort than generic_m. I am assuming the baseletter is wrapped up in 01EA000002, since that is the same for other A diacritics as well. If anyone knows of a better way to get the major/minor sort values, please let me know. The reason why I am pursuing this little nuance is for the purpose of working up a lab that I demo to others, and I personally learn much better when I have concrete examples I can put my hands on. TIA -- Charles Schultz