Ian, I believe you are right. Luckily the program I was envolved in was not a black one. _____ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of MacGregor, Ian A. Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:43 PM To: tanel.poder.003@xxxxxxx; ORACLE-L Subject: RE: DOD security Trusted Oracle required a trusted OS as well. I don't think Label Security does. Also, I'm not sure if Label Security can be used to store data from "black" programs. Ian MacGregor Stanford Linear Accelerator Center ian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tanel Põder Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:46 AM To: ORACLE-L Subject: Re: DOD security Hi, I think you can use Label Security now, instead of Trusted Oracle.. Tanel. ----- Original Message ----- From: Goulet, Dick <mailto:DGoulet@xxxxxxxx> To: rgramolini@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; oracle-l <mailto:oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 5:35 PM Subject: RE: DOD security Ruth, It has been a LONG time since I was involved with a project like this and even then we were using a "special" version of Oracle called Trusted Oracle. Don't know if it's available anymore. Anyhow it was a project for Strategic Air Command, now Air Combat Command, that was very classified. The Trusted Oracle had provisions in it to declare data at the row and column levels as having a classification of Top Secret, Secret, Confidential, Restricted, and Unclassified. People also had security attached to them. It was kinda interesting as you'd select data from a table and rows and columns would