RE: EXPIRED messages in the WF_NOTIFICATION_OUT queue
- From: "Rolfe, Kent \(GTI AIS OPS/SE\)" <kent_rolfe@xxxxxx>
- To: <ora-apps-dba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:31:52 +0100
I agree.
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From: ora-apps-dba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ora-apps-dba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jurijs
Velikanovs
Sent: 16 June 2006 13:26
To: ora-apps-dba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: EXPIRED messages in the WF_NOTIFICATION_OUT queue
I am 100% with you.
I just tried to say, if some messages or WF processes are not
processed for 1-2-20-100 days it CAN be an indication that something
wrong in the system. That may be it is good to look on those and try
to figure out if that isn't problem.
It is the same thing as with tuning.
There is no GOLD figure or statement like you physical reads suppose
to be 10% of you total response time. This definition is incorrect
straight from the beginning isn't it.
Yury
On 6/16/06, Rolfe, Kent (GTI AIS OPS/SE) <kent_rolfe@xxxxxx> wrote:
> BTW - not sure about those figures being quoted as 'healthy' - we
> regularly run with 1 million in deferred and we run a deferred process
> cleanup every 6 hours.
> Its all about system usage and what you use it for. We experience no
> performance problems with such high numbers in these tables. But then
we
> are a very big organisation.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ora-apps-dba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:ora-apps-dba-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jurijs
> Velikanovs
> Sent: 16 June 2006 13:00
> To: ora-apps-dba@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: EXPIRED messages in the WF_NOTIFICATION_OUT queue
>
>
> BTW: In your system are Oracle Apps DBA you need to keep an eye on all
> most active QUEUES (as Apps using AQ quite rapidly).
>
> In a healthy system active messages count in such queues as
> WF_DEFERRED suppose to be minimal ~100-1000. If you have got bigger
> figure than that you need to investigate why there is unprocessed
> messages.
>
> APPS:LIVE> SELECT msg_state, count(*)
> APPS:LIVE> FROM applsys.aq$WF_DEFERRED
> APPS:LIVE> group by msg_state;
>
> MSG_STATE COUNT(*)
> ------------- ----------
> PROCESSED 2824
> READY 1
> WAIT 271
>
> APPS:LIVE>
>
> Check you system and enjoy,
> Yury
>
> On 6/16/06, Jurijs Velikanovs <j.velikanovs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Hello team,
> >
> > Please take a look on the following output.
> > There are 795 messages in the WF_NOTIFICATION_OUT queue in our LIVE
> system.
> > Some of them have been put in the queue just today.
> > I wonder how messages in that queue become EXPIRED?
> > Is anybody experienced the same behavior?
> > Those messages are not dequeued and are not sent to end users.
> > What would be the right method to troubleshoot those type of
messages?
> >
> > Thank you in advance,
> > Yury
> >
> > APPS:LIVE> alter session set nls_date_format='YYYY.MM.DD
HH24:MI:SS';
> >
> > Session altered.
> >
> > APPS:LIVE>
> > APPS:LIVE> SELECT msg_state, count(*)
> > APPS:LIVE> FROM applsys.aq$wf_notification_out
> > APPS:LIVE> group by msg_state;
> >
> > MSG_STATE COUNT(*)
> > ------------- ----------
> > EXPIRED 795
> > PROCESSED 633
> >
> > APPS:LIVE>
> > APPS:LIVE> SELECT o.enq_time
> > APPS:LIVE> FROM applsys.aq$wf_notification_out o
> > APPS:LIVE> where o.msg_state = 'EXPIRED'
> > APPS:LIVE> and trunc(o.enq_time) = trunc(sysdate);
> >
> > ENQ_TIME
> > -------------------
> > 2006.06.16 00:46:15
> > 2006.06.16 00:46:15
> > 2006.06.16 00:46:15
> >
> > APPS:LIVE>
> >
> > --
> > Yury
> > +44 7738 013090 (GMT)
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>
>
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