hi, i have boy the r1-4 and the oltacon II. Personally, I can use either o and like them both. It seems to bea personal thing where some people have a problem recogneazing characters with the different-shaped array. Also, threshhole seems to act slightly differenffly on the by but machines which may be bothering some people. I think both were and still are fine units. Given the choice I'll use my r1-4 because of added clarity, but really I can use either one with no problems at all. Again though, I really think it's a personal thing. The closest anology I can come up with is with speech synthesizers. My favorites, some people just can't stand, while their favorites can drive me crazy. Thank God for choices! Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianne B. Phelps" <d.bphelps@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: unknown <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Saturday, Jul 24, 2010 13:53:54 Subject: [optacon-l] Re: from Peggy Covey > > > I have used the optacon II, and all I could say about it was, "It's usable." > It does the job, but not with the clarity of the previous models. > > Dianne > > -----Original Message----- > From: optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:optacon-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of H & C Arnold > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 10:24 AM > To: optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: from Peggy Covey > > I never cared for the Optacon 2 either. > > In God We Trust, > > Carolyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:04 PM > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: from Peggy Covey > > > That's what I thought, too. Does the Optacon II have fewer pins in the > array? I used an Optacon II a couple times and never really cared for it, > much. > > Cindy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "H & C Arnold" <4carolyna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:59 AM > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: from Peggy Covey > > > Interesting to learn that. I would have guessed more dots would be better > than fewer. > > In God We Trust, > > Carolyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marie Rudys" <mrudys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 12:34 AM > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: from Peggy Covey > > > Nothing, but as we get older, our sense of touch changes a little bit, and I > saw one with a 100-pin array which was easier to read. > > Marie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "H & C Arnold" <4carolyna@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 4:32 PM > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: from Peggy Covey > > > > What's wrong with the 144 pin tactile array? > > > > In God We Trust, > > > > Carolyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marie Rudys" <mrudys@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 9:18 AM > > Subject: [optacon-l] Re: from Peggy Covey > > > > > > I hope someone will revive and possibly redesign the Optacon and shape it > > into a newer form of itself. It would be nice to have a slimmer version > > and > > a battery that lasts longer and takes less time to recharge. What do you > > think? And I would like to see a 100-pin tactile array. > > > > Marie > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "pacovey" <misscat@xxxxxxxx> > > To: "optacon" <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 6:03 AM > > Subject: [optacon-l] from Peggy Covey > > > > > >ar Hello everyone, > >ar Every once in awhile, someone comes along who wants to do something for > >ar us > >ar blind folks. Last sunday I met with a student from the University of > >ar Cincinnati School of Design. He is interested in inventing a device that > >ar would be cheap and assist with travel. It would combine lasers and > >ar vibrating motors to impart information. I talked with him, then invited > >ar him to my home. You might say, I pulled him in to the deep end. He saw > >ar everything in my office including the OPTACON. Of course, he had never > >ar heard of it and was fascinated with it. He was able to recognize a few > >ar letters. He appreciated the potential of it and wondered why it is > >ar considered "old technology". I don't know what his project will be now > >ar but > >ar it was fun spending three hours with him. > >ar > >ar > >ar to view the list archives, go to: > >ar > >ar www.freelists.org/archives/optacon-l > >ar > >ar To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: > >ar > >ar optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the > >ar quotes) in the message subject. > >ar > >ar Tell your friends about the list. 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