Dan, I've never heard of one with wheels that you roll the array out. But, I'd say that if all you get it vertical lines, then it isn't working correctly. Probably needs some service. Cindy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Tevelde" <dan.tevelde@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <optacon-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 6:54 PM Subject: RE: Training One of my friends just got a used optacon and she has never used one. I got it working and found a sample document to read but the pins only showed straight up and down lines. I haven't used an optacon for many years so I wondered if I can still learn to use it or if the one I tried isn't working correctly. I was able to adjust the intensity and threshold but the appearance of the machine looked odd it had wheels on it and I had to roll the dispay part oout of the main unit to read. I've never seen something like that before. I would like to help my friend learn but I don't know where to start. I've also considered getting an optacon but if all I can get is vague lines when I read I'm not sure it is worthwhile. I'm sure I could use it there was a flip chart at work yesterday which I could have tried to read. If anyone has any ideas on how to help me or my friend let me know. Also, where do I find the model number of the machine? Dan To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. To unsubscribe at any time, just send a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject. Tell your friends about the list. They can subscribe by sending a message to: optacon-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "subscribe" (without the quotes) in the message subject.