Yeah, I guess I was spouting all over the place. The reference bit stream issue presses me all the time, since I'm now using off the air streams to develop a PSIP test & measurement system, and finding much problems in what people transmit. Wait a second: the lack of these bit streams will drive the market for PSIP t&m. Never mind! John Willkie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark A. Aitken (Webmail)" <maitken@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 4:11 AM Subject: Re: [opendtv] Why? > > I submit, given your brief description of location, that your issues may have > much more to do with lack of a receiver specification (in your case overload > related) more than anything else. I look at the whole (hole?) lack of > reception equation, and see a sea of problems. It's like "whack-a-mole", punch > one down, the next one pops up. Let us (for the sake of limiting argument) > presume equalizations issues are no longer on the table. > > I have been doing a good deal of work at the private RF laboratory of Charles > Rhodes. It is clearly the case that performance of the tuner is suspect in > many areas where multipath is not at fault. If you have been following Mr. > Rhodes TV Technology articles (here is just one such article...I highly > recommend looking them all > up...<http://www.tvtechnology.com/features/digital_tv/SignalBehavior.shtml>) , > a compelling case is being stacked up that points to internally generated IM3 > (third order intermod) and (in some cases) X-M (cross mod) as main culprits > particularly in moderate/high input level environments. > > The ATSC A/74 "Recommended Practices" document > (<http://www.atsc.org/standards/a_74.pdf>) inadequately (in my opinion) > addresses the requirements to reasonably assure reception. Much more needs to > be done if we are to save OTA for ANY type/kind/standard of digital > television... > > Quoting John Willkie <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxx>: > > > Rather than going on whining about receiver issues (at home in TJ, my > > b2c2 card picks up San Diego DTV stations with about 15-21 SNR, but not > > the one in TJ; at my mother's house, my b2c2 picks up the TJ DTV station > > with 15 db SNR, but not the San Diego ones. The TJ station is less than > > 3 miles from my home; most of the San Diego DTV stations are less than 5 > > miles clear line of sight from mom's home.) > > So, rather than whining, I would like to know from people who were there > > (this is not a speculative issue); > > > > Why, when the specs were adopted, there were no (and still are no): > > > > ATSC reference bit streams; > > ATSC receiver specifications (there are only recommendations now); > > Exemplars of bad bit streams (I have recently acquired some "off the > > air" as pertains to PSIP). > > > > Was the issue anti-trust/restraint of trade? Or were there more > > nefarious matters afoot? It seems to me that the current state amounts > > to a restraint of trade just by itself. > > > > John Willkie > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > > FreeLists.org > > > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > > unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > Regards, > > Mark A. Aitken > Director, Advanced Technology > *************************** > Sinclair Broadcast Group > 10706 Beaver Dam Road > Hunt Valley, MD 21030 > Business TEL: (410) 568-1535 > Business MOBILE: (443) 677-4425 > Business FAX: (410) 568-1580 > maitken@xxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.