Richard Bogner isn't "trying to survive" in NYC. He put the station up for sale months ago -- an ad in TvNewsday.com -- so that he could retire to points South. I don't think he got any takers. But, not to worry; he says he's billing $500K a month using the station as a ersatz FM station, with no NTSC service to speak of. I'm sorry, but I can live easily on $500K a year. $500k a month is "okay." Don't you EVER get tired of lying? I may be rough on Bert, but I've never caught him in a lie; mostly, court-holding, confusion and obfuscation. It's hard to NOT catch you in a lie. You use your personal cheapness -- not springing for cable for your daughter, and not even bringing a "cable long enough" or an "antenna good enough" as an excuse to trash 8-VSB. You set the bar high for that which you oppose, and you set the bar low for that which you favor. If you have nothing valuable to say, say nothing. If we want to join the CBA list, we will. Keep your personal issues to you, your family and people who care. Nobody on this list does. John Willkie -----Mensaje original----- De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de Bob Miller Enviado el: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:38 PM Para: opendtv Asunto: [opendtv] OTA Reception My daughter's apartment is not unusual, neither is her attitude toward OTA DTV or TV. If OTA is going to survive it is going to have to do better. They are down to something south of 13% and going much lower with the transition. But most of my experience is still in the big city, New York. Here is Richard Bogner's take today on the CBA thread. He is trying to survive with LPTV in New York City. "When I auto-scanned my new (under $200) HDTV flat panel TV, it did not catch my weak digital signal between two full powers, but when I then went through all the channels, all low power analog stations were there in full color. This is why we must have NTSC tuners and seamless reception, analog and digital, in all new receivers for years to come. I will not switch to digital until I am sure I can be received by most sets in most locations, which certainly is not the case now. I have flash-cut cp's to digital on all my channels, but I am going to stay analog for now, and not due to the cost, but reception of low power digital is bad (even full power is bad) deep in the cities in living rooms with indoor antennas. If the auto-scan does not pick up your channel, forget being received digitally, BUT you will always be received analog if the TV has an NTSC tuner and seamless reception. At under $200 most people will not use converters, when they can get HDTV for only a bit more, as compared to standard definition, and they will get analog easily. As I said earlier today, I sat in many homes and watched them fail to get digital, and fall back on analog, including low power. I think that after February 17, this will become clearer." Much clearer. Bob Miller ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.