Maybe it's different for old fogies on the Right coast, but in Southern California, it's quite common for people to buy cars based on car features and not the type and style of floor mats, or even the radio. I might have missed it, but it's been more than a decade since I saw a car commercial that even mentioned the radio as being a product attribute. Unless I've missed something, car radios seem to have one or two standard form factors and there are a wide variety of "after-market" radios available, in a vibrant market. I am even of the understanding that car radios are cheaper than the cars themselves. I am even of the belief that a car without an OEM radio is often cheaper than a car with a radio, but that all cars have the standard form factor(s) that permit -- and I realize this may be shocking to some -- a customer to add an after-market radio to a radioless car. I suspect that one factor leading to lower than anticipated adoption of iBiquity is the excrebable commercials -- they make fun of prospects AND customers -- put out by HD radio partners. Clear Channel San Diego has these insulting exercises all day and night. It just makes me think they are clueless about marketing. A new series started up in the last week or so, but they still are beyond edgy. Since iBiquity seems to charge exorbiant IPR fees (at least to broadcasters) including $5,000 per year per station for a license fee (above any equipment purchase/maintenance) I suspect that HD radio is something of a large market phenomenon. To the extent it is a phenom. It's probably not unfair to assume that makers are also charged high fees. Since few customers chose cars based on the radio, and even fewer are seeking HD radio [a horrible marketing name, by the way], I suspect that adding HD radio to all -- say -- Ford models would add to their costs, and wouldn't help them stem the sales/revenue/profits slide. I'm no fan of paying for content that is otherwise available for free. However, if you look beyond that, there are powerful attractants for XM and Sirius. The latter offers NPR, and the former, among other offerings, includes three Afro-pop channels. I doubt that among the "multitude" of HD radio channels out there, there aren't two Afro pop channels in the U.S. XM also offers at least three reggae channels. Not reggae programs, three reggae channels! Of course, 'bert could prove me wrong. Does he have a iBiquity radio in his car? Has he ever bought a car based on the radio that was installed? John Willkie -----Original Message----- >From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Jul 2, 2008 3:51 PM >To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [opendtv] Re: Here we go again... > >John Shutt wrote: > >> Patience, Bert. Things are in the pipeline for OEM HD Radio. >> >> http://delphi.com/manufacturers/auto/entertainment/audio/hd/ > >Thanks, John. Here's to hoping. > >Ford is offering HD Radio now, even as backfit to models as far back as >2005. > >The cars that offer HD Radio are listed here. Not nearly enough yet. >check it out. > >http://www.hdradio.com/buyers_guide.php?prime=autonew > >No word yet from GM itself, although it looks like you're onto >something. These guys rarely dsclose what they have in the works. > >Aftermarket might work, but not so good if the radio display is >integrated with other system, such as OnStar. > >This is probably like FM radio. It needs to be painlessly available in >cars before the medium can take off. The converse, of course, is also >true. If OTA TV becomes difficult to receive in apartments, because the >distribution plant was usurped by one (or more) MVPD, even people who >would otherwise use it often lose that option. > >Bert > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > >- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >FreeLists.org > >- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.