> On Dec 19, 2014, at 9:49 PM, Manfredi, Albert E > <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > The simple fact was that in your hasty disagreement, you ended up being > wrong. TVs started to be sold with cable frequencies set by default at about > the time when ~50 percent of TV buyers had cable. I never had a set where the analog tuner was set to cable frequencies by default. That is at least four sets. > So it's hardly surprising that around that same time, the broadcasters, who > were providing some of the highest values content for those MVPDs, would get > serious about being compensated like the lesser channels on the MVPD. If > anything, one wonders why it took that long. Some in the broadcast community started asking for compensation by 1980. I have a very close Chief Engineer friend from the Charlotte area who was adamant about this. And again, there is no correlation between cable networks and broadcast networks. If broadcasters wanted to be free from FCC regulation including content restrictions, and wanted to sell their content via cable, they had the ability to give back their OTA license. What really under,ones your position is what happened AFTER they got retrans consent. The broadcast networks demanded that they negotiate with the cable systems rather than the licensed affiliates. CBS asked for monetary compensation. But the rest used the leverage of their popular broadcast content to demand the carriage of new non-broadcast channels, and the placement of these channels in the most desirable portion of the system channel line-ups. Did you notice all of the NBC owned channels that are part of the new NBC TVEverywhere initiative? E! Now; USA Now; NBC Entertainment; NBC News, Bravo Now; CNBC; Esquire Now; Golf Live Extra; MSNBC; NBC Sports Live Extra; Oxygen Now; Sprout Now; Syfy Now, and Telemundo Now. MSNBC and CNBC were created as part of this first use of retrans consent. Most of the others were acquired when Comcast bought NBC Universal. I could provide lists of the networks created by the other networks, like FX, ABC Family, ESPN, to name a few. What does this tell you Bert? The content congloms were not just looking for compensation for their popular broadcast networks. The real issue was choice - their four network oligopoly was dying as people started to subscribe to cable for improved program choice - not a better "antenna." They transformed their business model from trying to attract the most eyeballs to one channel, to attracting more targeted demographic groups across many channels. And through the retrans driven licensing agreements they put together what is now the extended basic bundle, and the lucrative second revenue streams from all of these channels. > We are *not* talking about FOTA TV, Craig. I was. > We are talking about MVPDs. The MVPD can charge whatever the consumer will > pay, and by extension, the content owners can do likewise, for anything > carried over the medium. Thank you. This is the essence of what happened to cable. Two oligopolies working together to maximize revenues for both. By their license agreements they set the terms and conditions of carriage and the revenue sharing terms. When they want to make more money they feign conflict, threaten blackouts, use blackouts to create a public outcry, then sign a new more lucrative license agreement - for both parties in the faux conflict. Then DBS became possible - the politicians and regulators saw the opportunity to create "competition" for the monopoly cable MVPD. But DBS needed access to the same networks carried by the cable systems. So Congress included this in the 1992 Cable Act http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/198250-vertical-integration-stifles-competition > In 1992, Congress adopted program access rules to protect competition in the > multichannel video programming distributor (MVPD) marketplace by preventing > vertically integrated cable operators from disadvantaging rival MVPDs by > overcharging them. You might want to read the rest of this blog Bert, as it lays out the history, AND it explains why the current wave of consolidation between the content and MVPD oligopolies is causing concern about the vertical integration issue again, especially as it relates to program access for OTT Internet competitors. Naturally, the FCC is stepping in to extend non-discriminatory program access to virtual MVPDs operating on the Internet. In other words, the congloms can demand the same terms that apply to cable and DBS, and move their lucrative bundles to the Internet. >> And that's all that matters. So as long as you and other like-minded >> subscribers exist, the MVPD has every right to raise its prices, and the >> owners of content ditto. There is no call for "cable neutrality," so at >> least as of now, with little competition, the only mechanism to control the >> price of cable is cable cutting and cable shaving. To date, cord cutting and shaving have done nothing to control the price of MVPD bundles. IF, and this is a big IF, enough people cut the cord, the oligopolies might wake up and stop raising prices. There is nothing to suggest that we have reached that point yet. There is much to suggest that prices will keep going up and that VMVPDs will compete with cable and DBS by offering nearly identical bundles at nearly identical prices. > That objection was one for 10-15 years ago, Craig. You're a little behind the > time. ISP nets have been increasing capacity steadily. So instead of vague > words, explain to us what the limit is, in your mind. Sorry Bert, but there is nowhere near the capacity needed to support a major shift to Internet delivery of unicast streams to the masses. Netflix, and its customers, still complain about rate throttling and buffering delays. We are nowhere near the point that the cable and DBS companies can turn off all the live streams that serve the majority of TV viewers; what we are near is enough bandwidth to make VMPDs a viable competitive alternative. > Once again, it should be obvious. One single funnel for all content, amount > of sources limited by bandwidth (because content was always broadcast). The > MVPD becomes the single gatekeeper, can set rates pretty much wherever they > want, and the owners of content can take advantage of that too. And Craig > keeps paying more. That is not an answer Bert. It is simply recognition of the fact that the conditions were in place to allow today's oligopolies to be created. This could not have happened without the complicity of politicians and regulators at ALL levels of government, as it violates our anti-trust laws and would be shut down in a minute in other industries. > As opposed to no single gatekeeper, any number of distributed content storage > sites available, if one subscription site crops up that asks too much, a > dozen others will emerge that charge less (or charge nothing), if one show > costs the consumer too much, a couple of dozen other shows of that same ilk > can easily emerge. Why do I have to explain this, Craig? Ain't happening and it ain't gonna happen. You can have an infinite number of people trying to compete - we agree on that. But you have a finite number of content suppliers who are regulated and required to sell their content on a non discriminatory basis to everyone...you can see where that got us. The ONLY alternative is to create original content, and that is a very expensive proposition; by no sheer coincidence, the content oligopoly also sets the stage for what it costs to create high value content. At best we get some competition for the best talent, be it athletes, actors or the craft industries that produce this stuff. And that just drives up prices. Remember The Blair Witch Project? A bunch of kids with cheap camcorders managed to create a movie that received popular acclaim. The content owners were "concerned," and even started emulating some of the reality type shooting techniques. But Blair Witch was an anomaly. It takes many resources- money, talent, production resources, promotion and distribution - to create high value programming that appeals to the masses. The fact that Netflix, Amazon, AMC and others are spending billions to create original, high value content should tell you something Bert. > That's pretty funny, Craig. If the Internet is crammed full of optional > gatekeepers, I guess that pretty much invalidates any thought of having a > single, monopolistic one, right? Or is this another one of those trivially > obvious points that has to be painfully debated for weeks and months? No Bert. It simply says that the new virtual world plays by pretty much the same rules as the physical world it is a reflection of. All of these "optional gatekeepers" are primarily just new middlemen selling the same old stuff. Regards Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.