Tom Barry wrote: > He was technically correct because ATSC was designed > for directional rooftop antennas. That was an > incredibly stupid decision but supposedly true. I don't think this was true. From what I've read, ATSC was supposed to have the same coverage as NTSC. Anything less than that was a limitation. The fact that directional antennas usually worked best was simple: 8-VSB receivers didn't like multipath distortion. It wasn't by design, nor was there any design goal to restrict tolerance of multipath distortion, ever. There has never been *any* reason for 8-VSB to require careful antenna aim *other than* the unintentional lack of tolerance for multipath. Same goes for indoor reception. It all boils down to multipath tolerance. One of the indications I saw that the multipath question was not well understood, by the way, was a paper from Harris Corporation, from many years ago: http://download.harris.com/app/public_download.asp?fid=3D505 (Remember to remove the "3D" after the equals sign.) In that paper, they show the 8-VSB constellation. But what they show is random energy in the Q axis, which is correct, but discrete energy clumps in the 8 levels along the I axis. So this implies that the real-only equalizer would work just fine. The truth is, when the incoming RF symbol is distorted by obstacles, and some of its energy migrates to the Q axis, the level on the real axis, I, is changed too. The energy on the real axis becomes the transmitted level * cos(theta), where theta is a random angle of the symbol vector away from the I axis. So the real component of that symbol is also randomized, and the whole contellation now looks very messy. No wonder line of sight was the only way these guys would work half-way reliably. Long time ago, Frank Eory explained that complex equalizers were needed for both QAM and 8-VSB. That's because complex equalizers will restore focus along the I axis of the 8-VSB constellation, even if the Q axis energy would ideally disappear dowmnstream of the equalizer. And that's why there were such high expections for 2nd gen receivers. Unfortunately, aside from the problem of needing cmplex equalizers, there was also the problem of equalizing pre-echo without creating a lot of self induced noise. And that is what the 4th gen Linx first addressed. All in all, COFDM is the best thing that ever happened to 8-VSB. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.