[ola] Re: [ola] Re: rubrics, please

  • From: "arnoldb@xxxxxxxx" <arnoldb@xxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:28:04 -0500

Wish I could. 

Arnold
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Subject: [ola] Re: rubrics, please
Date: Wed, Mar 13, 2013 5:33 pm
Hello all! Am loving this conversation. If anyone would like to join today, 'in 
person', we will be sharing rubrics & discussing these issues in our Wednesday 
gotomeeting today at 8pm EST. Please join if you are able! 
Looking forward to more conversation. 
-d :) 


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El mar 13, 2013, a las 10:49 a.m., Nanosh Lucas <nanoshlucas@xxxxxxxxx> 
escribió:

Thanks, all. This discussion is very helpful to me.. Here are those performance 
guidelines, I believe. 
http://www.actfl.org/publications/guidelines-and-manuals/actfl-performance-descriptors-language-learners
After looking at resources that have been thrown my way, I'm convinced that 
collaborating with students on creating slightly more specific rubrics with 
student-created wording (I dig the aapl site for that) is the way to go. The 
process allows both student and teacher to prioritize based on what is going on 
in the class, and it allows us to familiarize ourselves with the proficiency 
guidelines. For example, students in one class felt eye contact was important. 
When I pushed them, they came to the conclusion that eye contact is an 
important part of engaging the audience, so we changed it to a category called 
"audience engagement." We then eliminate value-laden and meaningless 
phraseology, supplanting them with measurable behaviors by removing almost all 
adjectives - "maintains excellent eye contact" turns into something like 
"Frequently looks at people from the neck up. Scans the room. Responds to 
audience's body language by changing posture, inflection, or nearness to 
audience members when appropriate." Students now have an objective to work 
toward and specific behaviors that will increase the effectiveness of a 
presentational assignment. Whatever grade you assign each column is more of an 
issue within your school, I suppose.
I'll send out what I have shortly. It is not the most exciting conversation 
I've had with students, so we are taking a short break from it. But a colleague 
recommended having students do a pre-activity making funny rubrics that used 
specific language to describe whatever criteria they'd described (Superheroe - 
tight spandex, logo, clean underwear on the outside, cape, vibrant colors, 
mask, attractive). That turned out to be fun, but the resulting discussion went 
back to being a little dry in some classes.
Looking forward to reading more ideas on this,
Nanosh
On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Arnold Bleicher <arnoldb@xxxxxxxx> wrote:Good 
point Carrie. Yet the Performance Descriptors are based on the Proficiency 
Guidelines but are incremental steps along that path. Performance is more 
closely tied to classroom curricula where proficiency is not. 
And just because it might be a challenge to make the switch from grading to 
performance outcomes does not mean it's not worth the continued fight to do so. 
Like I said, we have to keep pushing that door open and it takes time and 
persistence. 
arnold 
From:  Carrie Duff <cduff@xxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To:  OLA Listserve <ola@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:  Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:52 AM
To:  OLA Listserve <ola@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject:  [ola] Re: rubrics, please


Let's not forget the ACTFL Performance Guidelines for K-12 learners which are 
more geared for rubric creation than the Proficiency Guidelines.  The former 
are designed to set learning goals and tangible outcomes, the latter for 
assessing performance of learners
in real-life situations.  The Performance Guidelines provide a lot of rich 
language for distinguishing progress in Interpersonal, Interpretive and 
Presentational tasks.  

Carrie
On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Ashley Uyaguari wrote:Hi all, 
We've been working on this at our school too. The tough part is that our 
schedule is by grade, so we see kiddos in 6th grade, 7th grade and 8th grade. 
Some kids in 8th grade, for example, are new to the school and have never had 
Spanish before. Also, everyone
has had different past experiences with Spanish. 
The way I'm dealing with it now is charting individual student progress with 
individual student goals. If a student starts at an NL in 7th grade, his/her 
goal is NM by the end of the year to earn an A.
While if a student starts at NH, I'll want to see progress toward IL (I'm still 
learning how long that might actually take them). This is the first year that 
I'm working with the ACTFL levels so it's tricky. And although it's not ideal 
to have the kiddos
all mixed in together, I think it can still work.  So far, kiddos are still 
making their own progress. I've had to do differentiating for homework and 
class expectations for output, but we're still able to work together as a 
community. 
Now that we are all doing OLA at our middle school and students are having 
similar experiences in each grade level, the hope is that we should have more 
students at the same level each year (except the arrival of new students, which 
will not change at
this charter school). At the high school they will have more luck separating 
classes by level. _______________________________Additionally, I agree with 
Arnold that if a student meets the goal set for him/her, he or she should earn 
an A (Or a "P" at my school). Especially when we're talking about language 
acquisition which isn't something that can be controlled like some other
learning; it's a process that takes time. 
I also wonder about situations like this: if a student exceeds expectations by 
moving from an NL to almost an NH in one year, but then the next year her 
acquisitions slows down a little bit. She does still improve and develop within 
NH proficiency, but
does not meet the next level yet. What do you do? If you look at her growth for 
two years, she is exceeeding expectations. But, for only the second year, it 
may appear that she's not. 
My thought is that it would be difficult for all students to continue to exceed 
expectations year after year even if they are excellent students and 
consistently demonstrate growth.  Doesn't that growth merit an A? Does that 
make sense?
This is a very interesting conversation. Thank you for all of your ideas. 
-Ashley
Carrie DuffFrancis W Parker Charter Essential School49 Antietam StreetDevens, 
MA  01434cduff@xxxxxxxxxx

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