I'd be interested in opinions from anyone who has compared Swarovski and Zeiss top-level scopes lately. My impression a couple of years ago was that Zeiss was the best on the market, especially for clarity at 60x, but I'd be interested in other opinions. I realize that I could take a birding trip to the Pribilofs for what either of them cost, but for now I'm just comparing glass. I have recently been using Leupold 80mm goldring and Kowa Prominar 88mm, both of which are optically very good, so that's my point of comparison. -- Alan Contreras Eugene, Oregon/Boulder, Colorado acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx Working in Boulder, Colorado, most of the time from mid-September 2013 through early summer, 2014.