Gulls have long posed an ID challenge. Canada Geese seemed harmless until the AOU elevated "Cackling " Goose to full species status. What used to be a garden variety is now a constant source of anxiety for America's birders. Marlowe's reference to "regular" Cacklers is indicative of the pitffalls posed by white-cheeked geese. What constitutes "regular' depends on where you are birding, and when. I first learned about Aleutians in a fifth grade Weekly Reader. That was 45 years ago and there were about 100 of them in the world. They were being captive bred at the USFWS facility in Pawtuxent MD . Your chances of seeing one in the wild was next to zero. My best friend lived on SW 53rd St in Corvallis and his dad kept a good assortment of pinioned geese, including "true" Cacklers he'd captured in Alaska. A pair of Aleutians landed with this captive flock and stayed for days, allowing photographs and positive ID. This was a short bicycle ride from my own house. Rare doesn't mean impossible. At that time, the late sixties/early seventies, "true" Cacklers wintered in the Central Valley. For me, a true Cackler is synonymous with the subspecies minima. They nest on the Yukon Delta, weigh about 2 1/2 pounds (like a Mallard or BIg Brown Gull) and are an intense, glossy, chocolate brown. This hue approaches purple on the breast of some individuals. I have some recollection that the historic population of true Cacklers exceeded 200,000. When I first began birding their numbers were down to about 20,000 and they were an uncommon sight in Oregon, passing through quickly under migration. In the ensuing decades their numbers have rebounded and they now winter in Oregon, not California. It is a simple matter to see 10,000 of them in a single flock at various places between Sauvie Island and Eugene. The Great Backyard Bird Count reported slightly over 1,000 minima for the whole state of California two or three years ago. This is a highly informal system of census, but I believe extremely methodical counts by the USFWS confirm those numbers. True Cacklers are a trash bird in Oregon, but a novelty in the Golden State. Meanwhile, about 100,000 Aleutian Cacklers have taken their place in the Central Valley. In the sixties the only white-cheeked goose one regularly saw in winter in the southern Willamette Valley was the Dusky Canada Goose. I remember the utter fascination I felt at seeing a lone mofitti(Western Canada Goose) in a flock of Duskies at the Corvallis Airport one December afternoon. Hunting was allowed at Finley NWR. Every goose that was bagged got examined. The Duskies were checked for age and sex, the rest dismissed as "other". This latter category was mainly taverni, whose numbers seemed to grow geometrically. There was quite awhile, maybe a decade and a half, when taverni seemed to be the default white-cheek in western Oregon in winter. When the AOU split the white-cheeks both taverni and Aleutians were assigned to the Cackler species. But "regular" Cackler east of the Rockies means the subspecies hutchinsii, and when Cacklers were elevated to full species their lantinate binomial became Branta hutchinsii. This midwestern subspecies has the common name of Richardson's Cackler. The main Washington County library at Dawson Creek Park is a great place to examine a variety of white-cheeked geese at close range. Emperor Goose, Black Brant, and Greater White-fronted Geese occasionally spice up the salad. Stefan Schlick and I were examining an Emperor Goose one October afternoon a few years ago and got the inspiring wisdom of a USFWS goose biologist who had also been attracted by news of the Emperor. We looked at a pair of geese twice the size of the minima and half the size of mofitti, the Western Canada Goose that now can be found year round in the Willamette Basin. This pair of medium-sized white-cheeks were dull dark brown. The biologist told us they were probably Taverner's Cacklers from the south coast of Alaska, much darker than the interior taverni. But the Lesser Canada Goose also nests on Cook Inlet, where they are much darker than the more familiar interior forms of Lesser. This smallest subspecies of Canada Goose overlaps the largest subspecies of Cackler in size. To quote the expert, "they are often indistinguishable in the hand". Gulls, like geese, have an impressive ability to take advantage of human induced changes in the environment. And geese, like gulls, have a reliable talent for confounding their human admirers. Plastic neck markers are a handy way of alleviating ID insecurity. Red with black alpha-numeric codes are installed on Dusky Canada Geese, yellow with black for true Cacklers, and green with white for Aleutian Cacklers. Not every flock has members with plastic collars, but they often do. And as a bonus, if you get the alpha-numeric code and report it you will soon be notified by email as to when and where the goose was tagged, and by whom. Lars OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx