> But satelites didn't exist in those days ... Satellites certainly existed 80 years ago -- the Moon, for one, and lots more around Jupiter: http://galileo.rice.edu/sci/observations/jupiter_satellites.html But I guess we're talking about artificial weather satellites! Cheers, Joel P.S. I checked the Adair Village sewage ponds today to see if frigatebirds or any other exotica got swept in on this latest "atmospheric river." I found basically the same collection of TEAL, SCAUP, BUFFLEHEADS, and RUDDY DUCKS as were present all through January. The numbers of Ruddy Ducks at this site (20+) continue to be noteworthy for northern Benton County. Also interesting is that the males of both Ruddies and Buffleheads are starting to come into breeding plumage. -- Joel Geier Camp Adair area north of Corvallis OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx