P.S. The number of deep-water grebe reports from the mid-Willamette Valley might be higher, if not for the unfortunate transfer of Stahlbusch Island to Linn County, 10 or so years ago. Trent Bray will no doubt remember finding Benton County's first recorded Clark's Grebe on the gravel-pit ponds there, a few years before the land swap. Linn County birders don't seem to appreciate this spot, no doubt since they have plenty of other deep-water spots to choose from. For Benton County birders, even though it's the closest deep water to Corvallis, no one goes there anymore. Well, to be fair, it was always a hard place to bird due to the restrictions by Morse Bros., and nowadays the Knife River gravel company. In addition to all of the "no trespassing signs" and fast-moving gravel trucks, the trees that they planted to block views of the pond have been growing higher. So without the incentive of county listing, I guess it's hard to gin up motivation to check. I think Marcia Cutler still manages to work out access for the Corvallis Christmas Bird Count, so that's basically the only time that anyone checks. It might still be a good spot for motorless birders based in Corvallis, as a relatively short bicycle ride. -- Joel Geier Camp Adair area north of Corvallis OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx