Joel, Wayne,
My banding station data for all but one station has been entered to e-bird.
Those that may look at it should note that the banding day data includes all
species observed on that day. That is, captured birds and otherwise
observed birds. There's a lot of data for a station. Have started to enter
point count data as well, some of which are not officual BBS routes (winter
project here).
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Geier" <joel.geier@xxxxxxxx>
To: "Wayne Weber" <contopus@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "OBOL" <obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:07 PM
Subject: [obol] Re: What to do with old bird data: How about AKN?
Wayne & All,
My understanding is that the AKN is more flexible than you suggest. See
for example the list of data that have already gone into the archives
for Oregon, via another "node" of AKN, the Landbird Monitoring of the
Americas Network (LaMNA):
http://www.klamathbird.org/lamna/index.htm
This link will take you straight to a PDF file that gives the list of
data that have been archived by LaMNA, as of May 2014:
http://www.klamathbird.org/lamna/LaMNA_DataArchiveSummary_2014May.pdf
I see Dennis Vroman has his banding data in there, and Karen
Viste-Sparkman submitted some of her personal point-count data. Portland
Audubon and some other organizations that you'll recognize have also
sent in data from their various monitoring projects.
As for bringing Birdnotes data into AKN, in fact I proposed this 8+
years ago, with the support of Don Baccus. However at that time my only
interaction was via the eBird team, and they did not seem to know how to
do this by any route other than going through eBird. They proposed that
we should munge Birdnotes data into eBird (which would entail various
distortions of geographic representation etc. as previously discussed).
Now that I've finally learned how to get in contact with AKN people
directly, I'll discuss this again with Don Baccus and hopefully we can
pursue this goal, working with people who have a more direct
understanding of AKN and are not strictly focused on the eBird node. It
would be nice to see Birdnotes data be represented in this system for
what it is: an innovative web-based data-gathering effort that produced
a significant record of birds on the regional scale, well before Cornell
launched the eBird initiative.
I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to have OBA's endorsement, but I don't believe
that it's necessary to have an organization (again, see the examples
listed for Oregon). It seems to be mainly a matter of providing the data
in a format that LaMNA, KBO, or some other AKN "node" can handle.
Likewise I plan to look into this as a long-term home for the Oregon
NAMC data.
Regarding CBC sector data, your rationale that "most Christmas Count
sectors are smaller than many of the 'hotspots' in eBird" highlights
once again a fundamental problem of the "hotspot" concept for
representation of area-based data. I don't see this as a good argument
for mixing apples and oranges, when there are ways to keep them in
separate bins.
Good birding,
Joel
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Joel Geier
Camp Adair area north of Corvallis
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