https://picasaweb.google.com/101700670573128910486/Underwings?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCLzS_cWF5pTweg&feat=directlink Click on link above (only3photos this time!) Bob Archer asked if I was certain these were long billed, not short billed dowitchers, so I searched all 3000 photos I took last week,and found these birds with wings extended. My vote is gray armpits, not tiger striped armpits (short billed) so I think they are long billed dowitchers. Actually the proper term is "the underside of the tertials", not armpits! Stephanie Hazen Salem OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx