[obol] Re: Painted Bunting, Canary, Coincidence?

  • From: Brandon Green <brandon.green18@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Jeff Gilligan <jeffgilligan10@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 16:08:45 -0700

I never said anything about people crossing the border with birds, so I
have no idea where you got that from.

People from Italy didn't bring suitcases full of pasta with them to Ellis
Island in the early 1900s, yet the number of quality Italian restaurants in
New York City still increased exponentially.

-Brandon



On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Jeff Gilligan <jeffgilligan10@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> People crossing the border illegally from Mexico are very unlikely to
> carry birds with them.  I know first hand that they carry water and food
> and a change of clothing, and some carry illegal drugs. With current
> interdiction efforts, many walk up to 40 miles on the USA side of the
> border before being picked up or taking public transportation.  There is
> secondary border inspection of often 20 - 25 miles north of the border at
> all roads leading from Mexico - at least in Arizona and eastern
> California..  Many long stretches of border are now fenced.   People
> crossing the border legally go through inspection.  This is a good time of
> year for a vagrant adult Painted Bunting to occur here on its own.  Pretty
> birds are as likely to be off course as drab birds.
>
> Jeff Gilligan
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Brandon Green <brandon.green18@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> The trapping of Painted Buntings may be rare north of Mexico, but quite a
> few people from Mexico have moved up here over the past few decades.  I'm
> sure that there are at least a few captive buntings, cardinals, etc. in
> Oregon.
>
> BOGR cites two Painted Bunting records west of the Cascades (one in
> Douglas Co. and one in Coos Co.), and I seem to recall seeing photos of a
> female out in the coast a few years ago.  So there is plenty of precedence.
>  But a Painted Bunting AND a canary at the same feeder in just over a year
> sounds way too coincidental to me.
>
> Brandon
> Eugene
>
> -----
> *Subject: Re: Painted Bunting, Canary, Coincidence?*
> Date: Fri Aug 30 2013 17:09 pm
> From: jeffgilligan10 AT gmail.com
>
> There may be a few instances of people trapping Painted Buntings, but the 
> species is highly migratory, quite common,  has a history of vagrancy and has 
> reached Oregon before, including an adult male once at Malheur NWR. North of 
> the Mexican border I would think that trapping of Painted Buntings is very 
> rare.  I would consider it a wild vagrant. The other bird looks like a 
> domestic canary.  That it too was at the feeder is in my best guess likely a 
> coincidence.
>
>
>
> Jeff Gilligan
>
>
>
>

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