Hart Mountain had a Hermit Thrush this year (found by Craig & Marilyn Miller at Blue Sky). Also two Varied Thrushes. But I doubt that the dearth of Hermit Thrushes on Willamette Valley CBCs can be explained by migration en masse to the Great Basin. I'm inclined to go with Thomas Meinzen's suggestion based on our results at Oakridge -- that Hermit Thrushes have stayed at higher elevations at least in the Cascades. Our team at Oakridge also saw a number of them flitting off the roadways at elevations from 1000 to 2000 ft. The Upper Nestucca CBC today (which is in the Coast Range, and mostly at elevations above 1000 ft) also got skunked on this species. Toward the end of the day I even made a point of checking spots where I've found Hermit Thrush in past years, and giving a variety of owl calls which usually cause them to give at least a "chup" note. But I came up empty. Most Hermit Thrushes that winter in the Coast Range probably don't nest there, so this is a different situation from the Cascades. If the Florence CBC gets skunked on Hermit Thrushes, then I might get worried. Happy birding, Joel -- Joel Geier Camp Adair area north of Corvallis OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx