Hi all, This whole "3F13" thing (three Fridays falling on the 13th in a given calendar year) mentioned in Barb Combs' posting got me curious, so this morning I worked out the math. The interesting thing is that this happens practically as often in a leap year (as in 2012) as in a "common" year (such as this one, 2015). The recurrence interval within a given century is 28 years, so we'll see this happen again in 2040 and 2043, should we live that long. In "3F13" leap years, the months in which Friday lands on a 13th are always January, April, and July. In "3F13" common years, the months are invariably February, March, and November. So there ought to be two "3F13" per 28 years, on average. The way that the Gregorian calendar handles years divisible by 100 or by 400 throws in a bit of a wrinkle -- it turns out there are 30 "3F13" years between 2001 and 2400, so the actual rate is 2 per 26.7 years. If anyone is curious to see the gory details, just let me know .... About birding around gunners (seeing Courtney's posting this AM), it's REALLY important to learn the difference between the sounds that rifles and shotguns make, to be able to assess if you are in real danger. Shotguns tend to make a deep, loud boom; rifles (and most pistols) make a sharp crack. If someone is firing a shotgun with a typical birdshot load and you're at least 50-60 yards away, you're not in mortal danger. However, if you can't get the gunner's attention by yelling as loud as you can (or using a whistle if you carry one), you might want to turn your face away from the sound, to reduce the chance of taking a pellet in the eye. If someone indeed is firing a shotgun in your direction and the pellets are carrying as far as your location, you'll hear their patter as they rain down on the vegetation around you. If they are actually firing AT you from less than 100 yards, you'll feel the sting of the pellets (it's really hard to miss a stationary target with a shotgun at that range, if you're trying). If you hear a sharp crack indicating a rifle or pistol, the level of danger is much greater. I would personally get behind the biggest tree or rock I can find, until I manage to figure out where they are and which direction they're shooting. Bullets from a high-powered rifle can be lethal at distances of half a mile, possibly even more. Since the individual at Glaze Meadows was set up for dog-training (and/or possibly out-of-season duck hunting), it seems most likely that he was firing a shotgun. It sounds from Courtney's description (and looking at Google-earth) that he was most likely beyond lethal range for a shotgun, especially if he was using steel pellets rather than lead. There could still be risk of injury and it sounds like the gunner at the very least might have been careless. I don't doubt that this was a very frightening situation, and it's good that the individual was contacted and warned about what seems to have been careless use of a shotgun, if not also poaching. But it seems extremely unlikely that he was actually shooting AT anyone (as stated in the subject heading), or this story would have had a different ending. I urge birders to maintain some perspective in responding to this reported incident. I live next door to one of the most intensively hunted patches of ground in the state, per acre, and I go birding there in all seasons. I've encountered a few careless/reckless individuals, and as a rule I report these individuals. But they're a very small minority among the thousand or more hunters that I've encountered while birding, over the past two decades. Good birding, Joel -- Joel Geier Camp Adair area north of Corvallis OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx