For species like Egyptian Goose, we don't need a field guide, just a recipe book. This is a larger issue. I think we do birders a disservice by showing large swaths of Oregon as containing Ring-necked Pheasants, when in fact large swaths of Oregon contain little but recent releases and their spawn. In some areas there is little meaningful difference between the status of a pheasant crossing the road and that of a Bobwhite. . . Alan Contreras acontrer56@xxxxxxxxx Eugene, Oregon On Dec 5, 2014, at 2:29 PM, David Irons wrote: > I have to wonder why Egyptian Goose is countable anywhere in North America. > They got started in Florida the same way as the one in Jackson County. > Someone let them out of a cage. There seems to be an increasing trend towards > expanding the ABA scorecard (checklist) by any means possible, including > making every exotic population that is "established" countable. Not sure what > the threshold is for this species becoming established in neighboring states > like Georgia and Alabama. Perhaps they are already considered countable > there. I don't know and really don't care. I found it rather painful to have > to create a page for this species in the BirdFellow Social Field Guide. > > As for Russ's first question, the answer is, "It's sunny, about 30-40 degrees > warmer, and you will have the opportunity to see all sorts of native birds > that you'll likely never see in Oregon. Limpkins are cool. > > Dave Irons > Portland, OR > > From: namitzr@xxxxxxxxxxx > To: obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; rv-birds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [obol] Re: EGYPTIAN GOOSE: Why go to Florida? > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 12:59:07 -0800 > > This email was a joke to lighten the mood on OBOL. Egyptian Goose is not > countable in Oregon if one is using the ABA rules as guidelines, nor is it > likely to be in the near future. > > Have fun out there! > Russ Namitz > > From: namitzr@xxxxxxxxxxx > To: obol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; rv-birds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: EGYPTIAN GOOSE: Why go to Florida? > Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 10:14:14 -0800 > > Why go to Florida when you can see them in Jackson County, OR? :) > https://picasaweb.google.com/113581614565937060167/EBirdPhotos2014#6089414515048076034 > > We also have a BAR-HEADED GOOSE hanging out in the Applegate Valley, but I > haven't seen it since last winter when it was in the pond at Serra Vineyards. > > Cheers, > Russ Namitz > Medford, OR