Just one more OBOL posting here tonight, unless I think of something else or someone vociferously objects to this one ... I'm a proud owner of this volume, and I'm privileged to have met the editors at least briefly (although I failed to get autographs when I had the chance). If copies are still available for purchase, I strongly recommend it for anyone who wants to feel informed about the status and distribution of Oregon birds. My copy is not up for sale. The editors of BOGR -- Dave Marshall, Matt Hunter, and Alan Contreras -- put a substantial part of their lives into this work, and can be very proud of the result. The multitudinous contributors can also be very proud of their contributions. The editors can once again be proud that they tapped into the knowledge of Oregon's most knowledgeable birders and ornithologists, when they chose the authors of the species accounts. Anyone reading this who knows my writing style is no doubt anticipating the phrase, "all of that said ...." But it doesn't really apply here. The editors, and the authors of the species accounts all have my full admiration. All of that said (yep, it was bound to come at some point ;-) it's important to recognize how the individual authors' voices play into the species accounts, and as Alan suggested, dig into additional references before you put yourself out on an indefensible limb. For Burrowing Owls, Greg Green gives an extremely informative account of the recent research on this species on its current nesting range in Oregon, as well as other relevant research in the Pacific Northwest. He also describes the unsuccessful (re)introduction attempt near Corvallis in the 1980s, which apart from this account, I doubt that I would have heard of. In short, this is a valuable account of recent work on Burrowing Owls in Oregon. However it misses some key information about past status in the Willamette Valley, as mentioned in Bob Altman's article that I gave a link to previously. If anyone who previously commented on this thread had looked into the species accounts in Gabrielson & Jewett's 1940 classic "Birds of the Pacific Northwest (Birds of Oregon)," they would have seen mention of some of the past reports of Burrowing Owls in the Willamette Valley during nesting season, which Bob brought up in his article. Bob managed to track down a few more records, including reports from outside of normal ornithological records (in particular, an OSU herpetologist who encountered Burrowing Owls while collecting rattlesnakes on Peterson Butte near Lebanon). There is not much doubt that Burrowing Owls nested in the Willamette Valley through the first half of the last century. As for their current status and perceptions of modern birders, I'm indebted to David Fix for informing me of the phrase "declining baselines." Whether you've spent 20 or 40 or 50 of your most recent years birding in the Willamette Valley, your perceptions are a long way removed from the ecosystem that prevailed here in the early 1800s. This disconnect is perhaps a little easier for me to process -- since I grew up in a midwestern prairie landscape where human impacts were generally acknowledged, and there were many eyewitness accounts such as Laura Ingalls Wilder's of what the landscape looked like before settlement. A little more grounding in historical reality, before the period when most of us self-described "old-timers" were still in diapers (and ecologically sensible ones at that, since disposable diapers hadn't yet been invented), can be found in the photo collection of the Salem public library. I encourage everyone to look at that collection, and also to pick up and read a copy of Gabe & Jewett's classic treatise. I suspect that I'm repeating Lars Norgren's admonishments on this point, but so be it. Lars is a unique asset to our birding community, both because he's a skilled birder, but even more so, because he's paid attention to the historical data. Good birding, Joel -- Joel Geier Camp Adair area north of Corvallis OBOL archives: www.freelists.org/archive/obol Manage your account or unsubscribe: //www.freelists.org/list/obol Contact moderators: obol-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx