My congrats to Paul as well. I have been going through my records, trying to resurrect some of my lists, and the sheer magnitude of the effort to do that shows what effort is needed just to keep track of it all. One of my fondest pieces of paper is a list from the Port Orford Christmas Count, jan 1 1994, written on hotel stationery. A wonderful day with Paul among others in the field-- RK Ray Korpi rkorpi@xxxxxxxxxxx Vancouver WA