Birders - Mike Mahoney and I just returned (10/24, 2:30 AM), from a successful trip to Lake Selmac to see the continuing RED-THROATED PIPIT. A few things that I noticed during our visit that might be helpful for future searchers include: Being patient. The Pipits seem to prefer the SW mudflat, but do travel around the lake shore. If they are not at the SW mudflat, check the rocky rip-raff at the spillway/impoundment near the western portion of the lake. As we traveled to and from the SW and SE portions of the lake, I had the passenger window down, and I heard Pipits near the damn. I would not doubt that this is a secondary location for these Pipits. We also checked the SE portion of the lake near the boat ramp, but came up empty handed; however, this may be a good place to check if they are nowhere else to be found. Cellular phone service can be spotty around the lake. If you plan on being connected with other birders around the lake, maybe bring 2-way radios. It appears that the whole lake shore is either private or Josephine County Park. The Park Rangers may enforce a 4 $ per vehicle per day fee, as it is posted at numerous locations around the lake. Thanks again, Russ for finding the bird and giving great directions and specifics. Thanks to Judy Meridith and Bob Stites for calling and getting us back on the bird. This was a life bird for Mike and me. Good birding, Trent