[ntnm] Re: Email testing
- From: "Huw Evans" <huw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 09:53:58 +0100
Thanks again, Alison, Hope springs eternal..
If only your digital experts could be persuaded to regard, say, the pre AFD
presentation of 'the Economist' and 'Observer' as models, they might save
time and effort which looks like reinventing the wheel..
Huw.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Long, Alison" <Alison.Long@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 3:03 PM
Subject: [ntnm] Re: Email testing
I too very much hope that we can get to a place where a selection of
choices are available, so yes, continue to hope!
Regards
Alison
-----Original Message-----
From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Huw Evans
Sent: 15 May 2014 13:48
To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ntnm] Re: Email testing
Thank you Alison.
I'm glad to understand that all users are being consulted and would
suggest
inviting them to copy their comments to this forum. Consultation is not
an
optional extra but an essential part of early project planning.
I keep puzzling why RNIB, with its expertise and resources, cannot offer
a
selection of choices which at least includes the efficient,
straightforward
presentation which was available from tnauk. Dare I continue to hope?
Best wishes,
Huw.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Long, Alison" <Alison.Long@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:17 AM
Subject: [ntnm] Re: Email testing
Hello Gareth (and Huw)
Please accept my apologies, I thought we had included all volunteers in
the trial. I will send you a sample email now.
I think it's fair to say we have had mixed reactions to file structure,
so we are planning to survey all customers on a range of topics,
including this one at the end of May. So, please be assured that we do
plan to make changes based on your feedback.
Regards
Alison
-----Original Message-----
From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gareth Williams
Sent: 15 May 2014 10:19
To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ntnm] Re: feedback Re: Epub question and txt comment
Hi Huw
At least you got an email version to try. I volunteered, but didn't get
so
much as the courtesy of an acknowledgment.
Gareth
-----Original Message-----
From: Huw Evans
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:07 AM
To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ntnm] Re: feedback Re: Epub question and txt comment
My initial reaction to the sample email received on 12 May (Sunday Times
contents links in 13 separate files) is surprise that the files are not
labelled and that it should be necessary to open them separately to
ascertain their subject matter. I also wish to be able to search for
relevant items without having to read the whole contents and, to this
end,
would wish (based on my very limited experience of IT), to have the
whole
contents as a single item which could be copied into a Word document.
(I
append a copy of my message to ICT which has not been responded to).
Best wishes,
Huw Evans.
Appendix:
(copy message to ict)
Many thanks for the trial email which I have opened. The files contain
contents links but I am unable to download the articles referred to.
Does
this mean that they are no longer available? If so, when did they cease
to
be available? I shall also be most grateful for any advice on the
following points -
The newspaper is presented in 13 separate files and I find it a very
tedious
operation to open (and reopen) each one separately to find out what it
contains. Would it be possible to provide more information within the
list
of 13 foles and/or, present the whole paper as one single file with a
single
comprehensive contents section?
I find that I cannot copy the html version into a word document. I
would
prefer to be able to do thisas I then find it possible to insert
bookmarks
and navigate using 'find','go' and so on. It may well be possible for
me to
deal with a text version in this way and I am wondering wherher you
intend
trialling one.
Best wishes,
Huw Evans.
Second feedback on 14 may:
I refer to the second trial pack received on 14 May and offer the
following
comments by way of feedback:
I prefer the text version to Html because it can be copied into a
document
which I can then search and bookmark. However, the absence of a
contents
section is a critically serious flaw making it practically impossible to
read a newspaper intelligently and efficiently. (Relevant comments
have
been made in the ntnm users forum (q.v.): more can and will be said if
necessary!)
I would advocate having one informative searchable contents section
covering
the whole newspaper as top priority and also believe it is desirable to
have
the newspaper itself presented as one item, rather than in 13 separate
pieces which are not even labelled.
Hoping this helps,
Best wishes,
Huw Evans.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Roche" <dan.roche@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 10:19 AM
Subject: [ntnm] Re: Epub question and txt comment
Hi Roz, And everyone on list,
I use the html files and fine them to save if needed and find web site
easy
to use.
I know the contents page with links on is easy to use as I can tab
around
as
well as arrow up and down and just click on article heading that I
want to
read and it goes to the article but if I tab to next article, it
doesn't
tell you the heading until you arrow down a line so title headings on
articles would be good.
Does anyone know what format the e-mail's will be sent out inn?
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Roz Olver
Sent: 08 May 2014 09:35
To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ntnm] Re: Epub question and txt comment
Hi Ari
The ePub format is for use on iPhone and iPad and when opened in an
app
called iBooks, produces a contents page of links (similar to the HTML
version) to access the various articles.
Hope that helps.
Roz
Sent from my iPhone
On 8 May 2014, at 09:19, Ari Damoulakis <aridamoulakis@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi guys
I'm just curious, what's the use of Epub? What I mean is, my daisy
player does epub, so I tried a newspaper in that format. I don't know
if my player just doesn't, but you can't navigate in any way, I mean,
there are no levels, article brakes, nothing.
Another interesting thing is the .txt file. In the past, when the
files were in .doc, I renamed them .txt, put them on my player and
could actually navigate by article, because everytime there was a
page-brake the new article started. I'm aware this couldn't be done
on
other players, even though they had page navigation it didn't go by
article, but with the booksense its page navigation did.
Now unfortunately if one wanted to use txt format it doesn't do that
anymore, so thank goodness for the html option.
Ari
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