It is one of two, the other is more complicated to fly having ailerons and flaps it is more hands on to fly. Once I've finished crashing this one a few more times and learnt to fly it with confidence I'll move on to the other one. I've snapped the body in half x3 ripped the nose of x 4 the good thing it they make this glue that works on seconds so you're up and flying again within minutes. 3976 faces north, 3978 faces east, me with glider north east, car with hill or crest in the background faces more or less south east. It's on Old Lawrence Road, go to Google Maps and paste this location in the search field 28 56 02.06S, 152 39 24.19E Cheers,CS Rob From: nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:nswnra-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of G C Sent: Thursday, 30 December 2010 04:25 To: nswnra@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [nswnra] Re: New Observing spot Rob Nice looking toy in the last pic! In the second pic [3978] r u facing north? Is that on Bottle Creek Road? http://maps.google.com.au Glen