[net-gold] The Defiant Parents: Testing's Discontents Response to Hunt

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Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 19:50:09 -0800
From: Richard Hake <rrhake@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: Net-Gold@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: AERA-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Net-Gold@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Net-Gold] The Defiant Parents: Testing's Discontents – Response to
    Hunt

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If you reply to this long (61 kB) post please don't hit the reply button, bane of discussion lists, unless you prune the copy of this post that may appear in your reply down to a few relevant lines, otherwise the entire already archived post may be needlessly resent to subscribers. The abstract reads:

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ABSTRACT: In a post "Re: The Defiant Parents: Testing's Discontents" [Hake (2014)] at <http://bit.ly/1mYwWoa>, I pointed to the "vigorous leadership, voluminous messaging, and pro-public-/anti-private-education positions of (a) Diane Ravitch and (b) "Fair Test" <http://www.fairtest.org/>.  Then I commented that neither appeared to be informed regarding the virtues of rigorous measurement of students' higher-order learning by means of zero-stakes *formative evaluation* "designed and used to improve an intervention, especially when it is still being developed" [JCSEE, copied onto p. 132 by Frechtling et al. (2010) at <http://bit.ly/1aYcgYn>.

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In response, Russ Hunt (2014) at <http://bit.ly/1hSsq6L> wrote: "The virtues of rigorous testing aren't really the point: it's how the tests are administered and what uses they're put to that Ravitch and "Fair Test" (and I) are concerned with."

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However, it IS to the point for many of those who wish to improve education, as I have emphasized in, e.g.:

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1. "The Physics Education Reform Effort: A Possible Model for Higher Education" [Hake (2005)] at <http://bit.ly/9aicfh>;

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2. "Should We Measure Change? Yes!" [Hake (2007)] at <http://bit.ly/d6WVKO> (2.5 MB);

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3. "Re: pre-to-post tests as measures of learning/teaching" [Hake (2008a)] at <http://bit.ly/MmPxwp>;

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4. "Design-Based Research in Physics Education Research: A Review" [Hake (2008b)] at <http://bit.ly/9kORMZ> (1.1 MB);

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5. "The Impact of Concept Inventories On Physics Education and Its Relevance For Engineering Education" [Hake (2011)] at <http://bit.ly/nmPY8F> (8.7 MB);

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6. "The NRC Finally Comes to Its Senses on Improving STEM Education" [Hake (2013a)] at <http://bit.ly/154M5yf>; and

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7. "Can the Cognitive Impact of Calculus Courses be Enhanced?" Hake (2013b)] at <http://bit.ly/1loHgC4> (2.7 MB).

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In the abstract of my post "Re: The Defiant Parents: Testing's Discontents" [Hake (2014)] I wrote:

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Denker is either oblivious or dismissive of the vigorous leadership, voluminous messaging, and pro-public-/anti-private-education positions of (a) Diane Ravitch and (b) "Fair Test" <http://www.fairtest.org/> with its discussion list ARN-L with OPEN! archives at <http://bit.ly/jeiTPm>.

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Unfortunately, both Ravitch and 'FairTest' appear to be uninformed regarding the virtues of rigorous measurement of students' higher-order learning by means of zero-stakes *FORMATIVE* (i.e., "designed and used to improve an object, especially when it is still being developed") pre/post testing utilizing Concept Inventories <http://bit.ly/dARkDY> which are constructed by disciplinary experts through arduous qualitative and quantitative research . . . . . ."

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To which Russ Hunt (2014) responded: 

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"The virtues of rigorous testing aren't really the point: it's how the tests are administered and what uses they're put to that Ravitch and "Fair Test" (and I) are concerned with.  In higher education contexts we have not (yet) had to be concerned with tests aimed at policing our teaching and curricula and imposed on our students without our cooperation or consent."

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I'm well aware that Ravitch and FairTest are concerned with how tests are administered and the uses to which they're put. Their primary concern is the *summative* high-stakes testing imposed by NCLB <http://1.usa.gov/y5efZj > and "Race To the Top " <http://1.usa.gov/i5KXLY>.

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That both are detrimental to K-12 education has been ably chronicled by FairTest  at <http://www.fairtest.org/> and by Diane Ravitch in her blog <http://dianeravitch.net/> and books "The Death and Life of the Great American School System: How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education" [Ravitch (2010, 2011) and  "Reign of Error: The Hoax of the Privatization Movement and the Danger to America's Public Schools" [Ravitch (2013)].

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Nevertheless, I still maintain that both Ravitch and 'FairTest' appear to be uninformed regarding the virtues of rigorous measurement of students' higher-order learning by means of zero-stakes *formative evaluation* defined as:

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"Evaluation designed and used to improve an intervention, especially when it is still being developed" – JCSEE (1994) as copied on p. 132 of Frechtling et al. (2010) at <http://bit.ly/1aYcgYn>.

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The above IS to the point for many of those who wish to reform education, as I have emphasized in, e.g.:

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1. "The Physics Education Reform Effort: A Possible Model for Higher Education" [Hake (2005)].

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2. "Should We Measure Change? Yes!" [Hake (2007)].

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3. "Re: pre-to-post tests as measures of learning/teaching" [Hake (2008a)].

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4. "Design-Based Research in Physics Education Research: A Review" [Hake (2008b)].

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5. "The Impact of Concept Inventories On Physics Education and Its Relevance For Engineering Education" [Hake (2011)].

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6. "The NRC Finally Comes to Its Senses on Improving STEM Education" [Hake (2013a)].

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7. "Can the Cognitive Impact of Calculus Courses be Enhanced?" Hake (2013b)].

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Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University; Honorary Member, Curmudgeon Lodge of Deventer, The Netherlands; President, PEdants for Definitive Academic References which Recognize the Invention of the Internet (PEDARRII); LINKS TO: Academia <http://bit.ly/a8ixxm>; Articles <http://bit.ly/a6M5y0>; Blog <http://bit.ly/9yGsXh>; Facebook <http://on.fb.me/XI7EKm>; GooglePlus <http://bit.ly/KwZ6mE>; Google Scholar <http://bit.ly/Wz2FP3>; Linked In <http://linkd.in/14uycpW>; Research Gate <http://bit.ly/1fJiSwB>; Socratic Dialogue Inducing (SDI) Labs <http://bit.ly/9nGd3M>; Twitter <http://bit.ly/juvd52>.

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"Physics educators have led the way in developing and using objective tests to compare student learning gains in different types of courses, and chemists, biologists, and others are now developing similar instruments. These tests provide convincing evidence that students assimilate new knowledge more effectively in courses including active, inquiry-based, and collaborative learning, assisted by information technology, than in traditional courses." - Wood & Gentile (2003).

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REFERENCES [All URL's shortened by <http://bit.ly/> and accessed on 30 Jan 2014.]

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Frechtling J., M.M. Mark,  D.J. Rog, V. Thomas, H. Frierson, S.Hood, & G. Hughes. 2010. NSF Report, "The 2010 User-Friendly Handbook for Project Evaluation," online as a 815 kB pdf at <http://bit.ly/1aYcgYn>.

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Hake, R. R. 2005. "The Physics Education Reform Effort: A Possible Model for Higher Education," online as a 100 kB pdf at <http://bit.ly/9aicfh> . This is a slightly edited version of an article that was (a) published in the "National Teaching and Learning Forum" 15(1), December 2005, online to subscribers at <http://bit.ly/1hGv92V> (if your institution doesn't subscribe to NTLF, then it should), and (b) disseminated by the Tomorrow's Professor list <http://bit.ly/d09Y8r> as Msg. 698 on 14 Feb 2006. Type "698" into the slot at the  top of the page.

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Hake, R.R. 2007. "Should We Measure Change? Yes!" online as a 2.5 MB pdf at <http://bit.ly/d6WVKO>. A severely truncated version appears at Hake (2006). 

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Hake, R.R. 2008a.  "Re: pre-to-post tests as measures of learning/teaching," online on the OPEN! AERA-L archives at <http://bit.ly/MmPxwp>. Post of 28 Jan 2008 17:33:48-0800 to AERA-L and Net-Gold.

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Hake, R.R. 2008b. "Design-Based Research in Physics Education Research: A Review," in Kelly, Lesh, & Baek (2008)]. A pre-publication version of that chapter is online as a 1.1 MB pdf at <http://bit.ly/9kORMZ>.

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Hake, R.R. 2011. "The Impact of Concept Inventories On Physics Education and Its Relevance For Engineering Education," invited talk, 8 August, second annual NSF-sponsored "National Meeting on STEM Concept Inventories," Washington, D.C., online as a 8.7 MB pdf at <http://bit.ly/nmPY8F>.

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Hake, R.R. 2013a. "The NRC Finally Comes to Its Senses on Improving STEM Education," online on the OPEN! AERA-L archives at <http://bit.ly/154M5yf>. Post of 18 Sep 2013 20:19:57-0400 to AERA-L and Net-Gold. The abstract and link to the complete post are being transmitted to various discussion lists and also on my blog "Hake'sEdStuff" at <http://bit.ly/19hfX6n> with a provision for comments.

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Hake, R.R. 2013b. "Can the Cognitive Impact of Calculus Courses be Enhanced?" An update of 26 Dec 2013 of an invited talk of 24 April 2012, Department of Mathematics, University of Southern California, online as a 2.7 MB pdf at <http://bit.ly/1loHgC4>.

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Hake, R.R. 2014. "Re: The Defiant Parents: Testing’s Discontents," online on the OPEN! AERA-L archives at <http://bit.ly/1mYwWoa>. Post of 25 Jan 2014 16:10:59-0800 to AERA-L and Net-Gold. The abstract and link to the complete post were transmitted to several discussion lists and are also on my blog "Hake'sEdStuff" at <http://bit.ly/1dEZzOD>.

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Hunt, R. 2014. "Re: The Defiant Parents: Testing’s Discontents," online on the OPEN! STLHE-L archives at <http://bit.ly/1hSsq6L>. Post of 26 Jan 2014 19:18:42-0400 to STLHE-L and POD.

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JCSEE. 1994. Joint Committee on Standards for Educational Evaluation, The Program Evaluation Standards: How to Assess Evaluations of Educational Programs," 2nd ed., Sage. See the glossary of evaluation terms on pp. 203-210 of this publication, repeated on pp. 129-135 of Frechtling et al. (2010).  Amazon.com information at <http://amzn.to/L3MvvY>, note the searchable "Look Inside" feature.  An expurgated Google book preview is online at <http://bit.ly/1mI2Sdl>.  This 2nd edition has evidently now been superseded by the 3rd edition [Yarbrough et al. (2011)].

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Ravitch, D. 2010, 2011. "The Death and Life of the Great American School System: How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education." Basic Books, publisher's information at <http://bit.ly/1dENs4c>. Amazon.com information at <http://amzn.to/pAjeZU>, note the searchable "Look Inside" feature.

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Ravitch, D. 2013. "Reign of Error: The Hoax of the Privatization Movement and the Danger to America's Public Schools," Knopf, publisher's information at <http://bit.ly/1l8esCY>, Amazon.com information at <http://amzn.to/1mTZzCN>, note the searchable "Look Inside" feature.

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Wood, W.B., & J.M. Gentile. 2003. "Teaching in a research context," Science 302: 1510; 28 November; online as a 213 kB pdf <http://bit.ly/SyhOvL>, thanks to Ecoplexity <http://bit.ly/152aFQ9>.

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Yarbrough, D.B., L.M. Shula, R.K. Hopson, & F.A. Caruthers. 2011. "The Program Evaluation Standards: A Guide for Evaluators and Evaluation Users," 3rd ed. Sage, publisher's information at <http://bit.ly/1jQpuvl>. Amazon.com information at <http://amzn.to/1mPovZg>, note the searchable "Look Inside" inside feature. An expurgated Google book preview is online at <http://bit.ly/1aDkYNK>.




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