[net-gold] Re: How Universities Can Help to Create a Wiser World: Response to Schremmer
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Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:00:20 -0800
From: Richard Hake <rrhake@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: [Net-Gold] Re: How Universities Can Help to Create a Wiser World:
Response to Schremmer
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ABSTRACT: In response to my post "How Universities Can Help to Create a
Wiser World" at <http://bit.ly/1du3KNZ>, Alain Schremmer of the MathEdCC
list wrote at <http://bit.ly/1lY8yzF>: "I think that the show is pretty
much all over. See 'The Fall of the Faculty: The Rise of the
All-Administrative University and Why It Matters'.
And it is not only universities. At my school, Community College of
Philadelphia, mutatis mutandis, things are exactly as described by
Ginsberg."
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The reference is Ginsberg (2013) at <http://amzn.to/K8KqxR>. The book
description reads in part: "Until very recently, American universities
were led mainly by their faculties, which viewed intellectual production
and pedagogy as the core missions of higher education. Today, as Benjamin
Ginsberg warns in this eye-opening, controversial book, 'deanlets' --
administrators and staffers often without serious academic backgrounds or
experience -- are setting the educational agenda."
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In response to my post "How Universities Can Help to Create a Wiser World"
[Hake (2013)], Alain Schremmer (2013) of the MathEdCC list wrote [My
insert at ". . . . .[[insert]]. . . ."; slightly edited.] :
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"I think that the show is pretty much all over. See "The Fall of the
Faculty: The Rise of the All-Administrative University and Why It Matters"
by Benjamin Ginsberg. . . . .[[See the Wikipedia entry on Ginsbert at
<http://bit.ly/1dzEndo>]]. . . . . .And it is not only universities. At my
school, mutatis mutandis, CCP . . . .[[Community College of
Philadelphia]]. . . . ., things are exactly as described by Ginsberg."
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Alain – thanks for calling attention to Ginsberg's hard-hitting
denouncement of Universities - right up my alley: see e.g., "Are colleges
failing?" [Hake (2005)] and "Evaluating the Effectiveness of College"
[Hake (2013)] - but why not give readers a break by giving a hot-linked
academic reference to his book, as in "The Fall of the Faculty: The Rise
of the All-Administrative University and Why It Matters" by Benjamin
Ginsberg *(2013)*?
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As President of PEdants for Definitive Academic References which Recognize
the Invention of the Internet (PEDARRII), I'm continually depressed by the
reticence of editors, authors, and discussion-list posters to accept the
precious gift of physicist-turned-computer-scientist Tim Berners-Lee
<http://bit.ly/dPFtPa> that allows references to be brought to a reader's
screen with the click of a mouse (instead of 10s of minutes spent
searching Google or hours searching though musty stacks - or more likely
not even seeing the referenced material and remaining ignorant of its
contents).
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For example, the book description at Amazon.com states [bracketed by lines
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"Until very recently, American universities were led mainly by their
faculties, which viewed intellectual production and pedagogy as the core
missions of higher education. Today, as Benjamin Ginsberg warns in this
eye-opening, controversial book, 'deanlets' -- administrators and staffers
often without serious academic backgrounds or experience -- are setting
the educational agenda.
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The Fall of the Faculty examines the fallout of rampant administrative
blight that now plagues the nation's universities. In the past decade,
universities have added layers of administrators and staffers to their
payrolls every year even while laying off full-time faculty in increasing
numbers -- ostensibly because of budget cuts. In a further irony, many of
the newly minted -- and non-academic -- administrators are career managers
who downplay the importance of teaching and research, as evidenced by
their tireless advocacy for a banal 'life skills' curriculum.
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Consequently, students are denied a more enriching educational experience
-- one defined by intellectual rigor. Ginsberg also reveals how the
legitimate grievances of minority groups and liberal activists, which were
traditionally championed by faculty members, have, in the hands of
administrators, been reduced to chess pieces in a game of power politics.
By embracing initiatives such as affirmative action, the administration
gained favor with these groups and legitimized a thinly cloaked gambit to
bolster their power over the faculty.
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As troubling as this trend has become, there are ways to reverse it. The
Fall of the Faculty outlines how we can revamp the system so that real
educators can regain their voice in curriculum policy.
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Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University; Honorary
Member, Curmudgeon Lodge of Deventer, The Netherlands; President, PEdants
for Definitive Academic References which Recognize the Invention of the
Internet (PEDARRII); LINKS TO: Academia <http://bit.ly/a8ixxm>; Articles
<http://bit.ly/a6M5y0>; Blog <http://bit.ly/9yGsXh>; Facebook
<http://on.fb.me/XI7EKm>; GooglePlus <http://bit.ly/KwZ6mE>; Google
Scholar <http://bit.ly/Wz2FP3>; Linked In <http://linkd.in/14uycpW>;
Research Gate <http://bit.ly/1fJiSwB>; Socratic Dialogue Inducing (SDI)
Labs <http://bit.ly/9nGd3M>; Twitter <http://bit.ly/juvd52>.
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REFERENCES [All URL's accessed on 09 Jan 2014 and shortened by
<http://bit.ly/>.]
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Bok, D. 2005a. "Are colleges failing? Higher Ed Needs New Lesson Plans,"
Boston Globe, 18 December, copied into the APPENDIX of Hake (2005). See
also Bok (2005b).
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Bok, D. 2005b. "Our Underachieving Colleges: A Candid Look at How Much
Students Learn and Why They Should Be Learning More." Princeton University
Press, publisher's information at <http://bit.ly/qfNIWM> Amazon.com
information at <http://amzn.to/HLaHzT>.
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Ginsberg, B. 2013. "The Fall of the Faculty: The Rise of the
All-Administrative University and Why It Matters." Oxford University
Press, publisher's information at <http://bit.ly/1d3zHjD>. Amazon.com
information at <http://amzn.to/K8KqxR>. Note the searchable "Look Inside"
feature.
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Hake, R.R. 2005. "Are colleges failing?" AERA-L post of 19 Dec 2005
17:54:37-0800; online on the OPEN! AERA-L archives at
<http://bit.ly/erBRGN>. The APPENDIX contains a copy of Bok (2005a).
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Hake, R.R. 2013. "Evaluating the Effectiveness of College" online on the
OPEN! AERA-L archives at <http://bit.ly/1abaYZU>. Post of 14 May 2013
16:35:04-0700 to AERA-L and Net-Gold. The abstract and link to the
complete post were transmitted to various discussion lists and are also on
my blog "Hake'sEdStuff" at <http://bit.ly/14nNcEt>.
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Hake, R.R. 2013. "How Universities Can Help to Create a Wiser World,"
online on the OPEN! AERA-L archives at <http://bit.ly/1du3KNZ>. The
abstract and link to the complete post were transmitted to various
discussion lists and are on my blog "Hake'sEdStuff" at
<http://bit.ly/KwzSJf>.
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Schremmer, A. 2013. "Re: How Universities Can Help to Create a Wiser
World," online on the OPEN! MathEdCC archives at <http://bit.ly/1lY8yzF>.
Post of 9 Jan 9, 2014 12:27-0500.
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