Massy asked about whether Nama could have a logging function. grep'ping for $debug finds some 410 debugging statements. One workaround to rewriting all of these is to use something like GNU screen, which can have a huge scrollback buffer. ~/.screenrc defscrollback 20000 If I do rewrite the debugging, I will want some fine-grained choices over the types of debugging information logged/displayed. It's something I've been thinking about for a long time, and I'm sure it will make life better, at least for those parts of my (other developers'??) life spent in debugging. best, Joel -- Joel Roth