eye glass cleaner (contains the same thing as windex, there is a detergent smell in both) or just plain water. Its dust only on the screen. Nothing fancy...water is amazing, and horribly simple. FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote: > muglo Digest Mon, 05 Jun 2006 Volume: 06 Issue: 108 > > In This Issue: > [muglo] Screen cleaners? > [muglo] pdf > [muglo] Re: pdf > [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > [muglo] Re: pdf > [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > [muglo] Re: pdf > [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > [muglo] Re: pdf > [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: [muglo] Screen cleaners? > From: Ilbert Walker <ilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:00:59 -0400 > > Windex ahoy !? Spring Cleaning time - Screen Cleaning time ? > This may have been raised in the past . > > But what type of cleaner is recommended for Apple Cinema Displays? To > minimize any damage. > > Is Windex suitably non abrasive ? Or maybe just plain water ? Or a > Vinegar or Ammonia mix? > > Suggestions anyone ? > > Thanks > > Ilbert > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:39:29 -0400 > Subject: [muglo] pdf > From: Hawk <taylorc547@xxxxxxxxxx> > > I sometimes run across websites that have things I want, like agendas, > available but they're PDF files. Is there any way to open PDF files? I can't > seem to do it. jim > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:48:36 -0400 > Subject: [muglo] Re: pdf > From: r weaver <weaverrw@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Just get Adobe Reader (it's a free download) from adobe.com > > Bob > > >>From: Hawk <taylorc547@xxxxxxxxxx> >>Reply-To: muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:39:29 -0400 >>To: <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Subject: [muglo] pdf >> >>I sometimes run across websites that have things I want, like agendas, >>available but they're PDF files. Is there any way to open PDF files? I can't >>seem to do it. jim >> >>_________________________________________________ >> >>For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on >> >>http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/joinus.html >> >>Our Archives can be viewed at >> >>//www.freelists.org/archives/muglo >> >>Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: >> >>http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Dave Bonhoff <gtidave@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:42:21 -0400 > > NOOOOooo!!!!!!!!! > > Ammonia is bad for LCD's! Alcohol is bad for LCD's! Some paper can > be abrasive to LCD's! And water won't clean. Get a proper screen > cleaner that is formulated for LCD's. I use a product called "iKlear > Apple Polish" It is Apple recommended. It came in a package that > includes 5 oz. (150 mL) pump bottle, a large cleaning cloth (micro- > chamois), a small cleaning cloth and 6 travel packs. > > www.KlearScreen.com > > There are other products available, this is just the one I have > access to and KNOW is approved by Apple (and other manufacturers I > believe). Consider the REPLACEMENT cost of the screen when > purchasing a cleaner and cloth... > > Dave > > On 5-Jun-06, at 15:00, Ilbert Walker wrote: > > >>Windex ahoy !? Spring Cleaning time - Screen Cleaning time ? >>This may have been raised in the past . >> >>But what type of cleaner is recommended for Apple Cinema Displays? To >>minimize any damage. >> >>Is Windex suitably non abrasive ? Or maybe just plain water ? Or a >>Vinegar or Ammonia mix? >> >>Suggestions anyone ? >> >>Thanks >> >>Ilbert > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Gerhard <gerhardk@xxxxxxx> > Subject: [muglo] Re: pdf > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:46:15 -0400 > > If you are using OS X there is a program called Preview included and > it reads PDF files amongst other things. You can also choose to > download Adobe Acrobat Reader from the Adobe site and this is the > program made for PDFs. > > http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html > > Gerhard > > > On Jun 5, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Hawk wrote: > > >>I sometimes run across websites that have things I want, like agendas, >>available but they're PDF files. Is there any way to open PDF >>files? I can't >>seem to do it. jim >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:58:44 -0400 > From: "Eric Dunbar" <eric.dunbar@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > > Distilled water would be my liquid of choice and I'd be using a > lint-free cloth or tissues (e.g. KimWipes(r) > <http://www.escience.ca/eTool/RENDER/1/2575/346/11355.html>). > > No salts to leave behind any deposit. No contaminants (unless your > source of distilled water is dirty ;-). And an easy place to get a > "free" (aside from all the green house gases generated to drive the > dehumidifier) waste distilled water is from your friendly old > dehumidifier in the basement. > > I'd avoid harsher liquids like Windex/ammonia or more concentrated > alcohol-based cleaners. > > PS Your user manual probably has cleaning recommendations (and, I > suspect they'll be along the lines of... use water and a lint-free > cloth ;-). > > Eric. > > On 05/06/06, Ilbert Walker <ilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>Windex ahoy !? Spring Cleaning time - Screen Cleaning time ? >>This may have been raised in the past . >> >>But what type of cleaner is recommended for Apple Cinema Displays? To >>minimize any damage. >> >>Is Windex suitably non abrasive ? Or maybe just plain water ? Or a >>Vinegar or Ammonia mix? >> >>Suggestions anyone ? >> >>Thanks >> >>Ilbert > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Ilbert Walker <ilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 16:00:40 -0400 > > Thanks Dave - for this useful advice . > > Will try to buy. I gather Mac Outpost stock it > > Glad I put up my message - before ruining my screen ! > > Thanks again ' > > > Ilbert > > And a final thought from Walker's Wit & Wisdom ? :-) > > Every man/woman I meet is in some way my superior; and in that I can > learn of them. Emerson.(PC modified !) > > > > > On 5 Jun 2006, at 3:42 PM, Dave Bonhoff wrote: > > >>NOOOOooo!!!!!!!!! >> >>Ammonia is bad for LCD's! Alcohol is bad for LCD's! Some paper can >>be abrasive to LCD's! And water won't clean. Get a proper screen >>cleaner that is formulated for LCD's. I use a product called "iKlear >>Apple Polish" It is Apple recommended. It came in a package that >>includes 5 oz. (150 mL) pump bottle, a large cleaning cloth (micro- >>chamois), a small cleaning cloth and 6 travel packs. >> >>www.KlearScreen.com >> >>There are other products available, this is just the one I have >>access to and KNOW is approved by Apple (and other manufacturers I >>believe). Consider the REPLACEMENT cost of the screen when >>purchasing a cleaner and cloth... >> >>Dave >> >>On 5-Jun-06, at 15:00, Ilbert Walker wrote: >> >> >> >>>Windex ahoy !? Spring Cleaning time - Screen Cleaning time ? >>>This may have been raised in the past . >>> >>>But what type of cleaner is recommended for Apple Cinema Displays? To >>>minimize any damage. >>> >>>Is Windex suitably non abrasive ? Or maybe just plain water ? Or a >>>Vinegar or Ammonia mix? >>> >>>Suggestions anyone ? >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>>Ilbert >>> >> >>_________________________________________________ >> >>For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on >> >> http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/joinus.html >> >>Our Archives can be viewed at >> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo >> >>Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: >> >> http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/ >> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: doug rogers <dougsamu@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:59:59 -0400 > > > > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- > -- Type: image/gif > -- File: image001.gif > > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- > -- Type: image/gif > -- File: image002.gif > > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- > -- Type: image/gif > -- File: image003.gif > > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- > -- Type: image/gif > -- File: image004.gif > > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- > -- Type: image/gif > -- File: image005.gif > > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- > -- Type: image/gif > -- File: image006.gif > > > -- Attached file included as plaintext by Ecartis -- > > > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- > -- Type: image/gif > -- File: image007.gif > > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- > -- Type: image/gif > -- File: image008.gif > > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- > -- Type: image/gif > -- File: image009.gif > > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- > -- Type: image/gif > -- File: image010.gif > > > -- Attached file included as plaintext by Ecartis -- > > > > > > and > > ScreenCleaner Pro can be found here: > > http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/utilities/freebies/ > > > > Why are Humans the only primates with chins and nuclear weapons? > __________<http://home.golden.net/~samu>__________ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 16:10:37 -0400 > Subject: [muglo] Re: pdf > From: Hawk <taylorc547@xxxxxxxxxx> > > I'm using OS 9.2. > I've downloaded adobe reader in the past and never seemed to get it to > work. jim > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 16:11:51 -0400 > Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > From: Hawk <taylorc547@xxxxxxxxxx> > > My wife got sucked into buying a "special cleaner and cloth" when we > purchased a new LCD TV. I wonder if that would work on computer screens as > well? jim > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Keith Reedy <WA9DRO@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [muglo] Re: pdf > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 16:16:18 -0400 > > Preview seems to open them fine. > Keith Reedy > WA9DRO@xxxxxxxxx > God gives his best to those who leave the choice with him--J. Hudson > Taylor > Mac Voiceover list > http://lists.icanworkthisthing.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoiceover > > > On Jun 5, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Hawk wrote: > > >>I sometimes run across websites that have things I want, like agendas, >>available but they're PDF files. Is there any way to open PDF >>files? I can't >>seem to do it. jim >> >>_________________________________________________ >> >>For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on >> >> http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/joinus.html >> >>Our Archives can be viewed at >> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo >> >>Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: >> >> http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/ >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Ilbert Walker <ilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 16:26:58 -0400 > > Thanks for this 'inexpensive altenative ' reply, Eric > > Will try > > Ilbert > > > On 5 Jun 2006, at 3:58 PM, Eric Dunbar wrote: > > >>Distilled water would be my liquid of choice and I'd be using a >>lint-free cloth or tissues (e.g. KimWipes(r) >><http://www.escience.ca/eTool/RENDER/1/2575/346/11355.html>). >> >>No salts to leave behind any deposit. No contaminants (unless your >>source of distilled water is dirty ;-). And an easy place to get a >>"free" (aside from all the green house gases generated to drive the >>dehumidifier) waste distilled water is from your friendly old >>dehumidifier in the basement. >> >>I'd avoid harsher liquids like Windex/ammonia or more concentrated >>alcohol-based cleaners. >> >>PS Your user manual probably has cleaning recommendations (and, I >>suspect they'll be along the lines of... use water and a lint-free >>cloth ;-). >> >>Eric. >> >>On 05/06/06, Ilbert Walker <ilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >>>Windex ahoy !? Spring Cleaning time - Screen Cleaning time ? >>>This may have been raised in the past . >>> >>>But what type of cleaner is recommended for Apple Cinema Displays? To >>>minimize any damage. >>> >>>Is Windex suitably non abrasive ? Or maybe just plain water ? Or a >>>Vinegar or Ammonia mix? >>> >>>Suggestions anyone ? >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>>Ilbert >>> >> >>_________________________________________________ >> >>For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on >> >> http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/joinus.html >> >>Our Archives can be viewed at >> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo >> >>Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: >> >> http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/ >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 16:36:11 -0400 > From: Leith Peterson <leithriver7@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > > I can't find anything in my iBook clamshell instructions on cleaning. > I got my iBook G3/900 second hand, and I don't believe I got an > instruction manual with it. I could probably find the answer if I > did a bunch of digging on the web, but can anybody tell me off the > top of their head if the following cleaner will work with both these > screens? > > Kensington Screen Guardian > > "Non-abrasive cleaner for notebooks, anti-glare and polarized > computer screens." > > There is an asterick besides the above info and then it says "Some > exceptions. Consult hardware manufacturer before use." > > I can't remember whether I got this cleaner for my 7300 or iBook > clamshell. I believe I got it for my iBook clamshell and the rep at > the now defunct CompuSmart on Fanshawe Park Rd had recommended it to > me. She said to use it with a lint free cloth. I got the lint free > kind that you use to clean cars. They're called auto detailing > cloths or something like that. > > Please advise. Thanks. > > Leith > > >>My wife got sucked into buying a "special cleaner and cloth" when we >>purchased a new LCD TV. I wonder if that would work on computer screens as >>well? jim > > > ------------------------------ > > From: doug rogers <dougsamu@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 16:43:15 -0400 > > > On 06-05-06, at 4:26 PM, Ilbert Walker wrote: > > >>Thanks for this 'inexpensive altenative ' > > > http://screenclean.j1media.com/lick.html > > There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in. > __________<http://home.golden.net/~samu>__________ > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Biti <Biti@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 18:36:42 -0400 > > I have used flat screen displays, powerbooks or displays, for years > (since my first PB in 1989) and wouldn't consider cleaning with > anything but a clean soft cotton cloth made slightly damp with water. > That is in line with manufacturers' instructions, Tap water won't > damage your display. Just don't feel you have to clean every week. > > Keep it very gentle and don't press hard. > > Don't let it get dirty, is the bottom line. No fingers on the monitor, > no spraying it inadvertently with fruit juice, etc. > > HTH > > Biti > > > On Jun 5, 2006, at 4:43 PM, doug rogers wrote: > > >>On 06-05-06, at 4:26 PM, Ilbert Walker wrote: >> >> >>>Thanks for this 'inexpensive altenative ' >> >>http://screenclean.j1media.com/lick.html >> >> There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in. >>__________<http://home.golden.net/~samu>__________ >> >>_________________________________________________ >> >>For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on >> >> http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/joinus.html >> >>Our Archives can be viewed at >> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo >> >>Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: >> >> http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/ >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Ilbert Walker <ilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 20:17:33 -0400 > > Thanks for this additional input - and for all the others who have > responded here to my query. > > How fortunate we are to have such a useful local service ! > > Ilbert > > > On 5 Jun 2006, at 6:36 PM, Biti wrote: > > >>I have used flat screen displays, powerbooks or displays, for years >>(since my first PB in 1989) and wouldn't consider cleaning with >>anything but a clean soft cotton cloth made slightly damp with water. >>That is in line with manufacturers' instructions, Tap water won't >>damage your display. Just don't feel you have to clean every week. >> >>Keep it very gentle and don't press hard. >> >>Don't let it get dirty, is the bottom line. No fingers on the monitor, >>no spraying it inadvertently with fruit juice, etc. >> >>HTH >> >>Biti >> >> >>On Jun 5, 2006, at 4:43 PM, doug rogers wrote: >> >> >> >>>On 06-05-06, at 4:26 PM, Ilbert Walker wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Thanks for this 'inexpensive altenative ' >>>> >>> >>>http://screenclean.j1media.com/lick.html >>> >>> There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in. >>>__________<http://home.golden.net/~samu>__________ >>> >>>_________________________________________________ >>> >>>For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on >>> >>> http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/joinus.html >>> >>>Our Archives can be viewed at >>> >>> //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo >>> >>>Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: >>> >>> http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/ >>> >>> >> >>_________________________________________________ >> >>For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on >> >> http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/joinus.html >> >>Our Archives can be viewed at >> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo >> >>Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: >> >> http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/ >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Dave Bonhoff <gtidave@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 21:20:53 -0400 > > It might be OK, as long as it doesn't contain alcohol or ammonium. > Many screen cleaners contain alcohol which can damage the anti- > reflective coating on Apple LCD's. The cloth is probably safe. > > Dave > > On 5-Jun-06, at 16:11, Hawk wrote: > > >>My wife got sucked into buying a "special cleaner and cloth" when we >>purchased a new LCD TV. I wonder if that would work on computer >>screens as >>well? jim >> >>_________________________________________________ >> >>For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on >> >> http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/joinus.html >> >>Our Archives can be viewed at >> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo >> >>Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: >> >> http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Dave Bonhoff <gtidave@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners? > Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 21:47:26 -0400 > > It should be fine. > Dave > > On 5-Jun-06, at 16:36, Leith Peterson wrote: > > >>I can't find anything in my iBook clamshell instructions on cleaning. >>I got my iBook G3/900 second hand, and I don't believe I got an >>instruction manual with it. I could probably find the answer if I >>did a bunch of digging on the web, but can anybody tell me off the >>top of their head if the following cleaner will work with both these >>screens? >> >>Kensington Screen Guardian >> >>"Non-abrasive cleaner for notebooks, anti-glare and polarized >>computer screens." >> >>There is an asterick besides the above info and then it says "Some >>exceptions. Consult hardware manufacturer before use." >> >>I can't remember whether I got this cleaner for my 7300 or iBook >>clamshell. I believe I got it for my iBook clamshell and the rep at >>the now defunct CompuSmart on Fanshawe Park Rd had recommended it to >>me. She said to use it with a lint free cloth. I got the lint free >>kind that you use to clean cars. They're called auto detailing >>cloths or something like that. >> >>Please advise. 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