[muglo] Re: muglo Digest V6 #108

  • From: Roy Hanson <printerman@xxxxxx>
  • To: muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:07:58 -0400

eye glass cleaner (contains the same thing as windex, there is a 
detergent smell in both) or just plain water. Its dust only on the 
screen. Nothing fancy...water is amazing, and horribly simple.

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> muglo Digest  Mon, 05 Jun 2006        Volume: 06  Issue: 108
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> In This Issue:
>               [muglo] Screen cleaners?
>               [muglo] pdf
>               [muglo] Re: pdf
>               [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
>               [muglo] Re: pdf
>               [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
>               [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
>               [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
>               [muglo] Re: pdf
>               [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
>               [muglo] Re: pdf
>               [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
>               [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
>               [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
>               [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
>               [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
>               [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
>               [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject: [muglo] Screen cleaners?
> From: Ilbert Walker <ilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:00:59 -0400
> 
> Windex ahoy !?  Spring Cleaning time - Screen Cleaning time ?
> This may have been raised in the past .
> 
> But what type of cleaner is recommended for Apple Cinema Displays? To  
> minimize any damage.
> 
> Is Windex suitably non abrasive ?  Or maybe just plain water ? Or a  
> Vinegar or Ammonia mix?
> 
> Suggestions anyone ?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ilbert
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:39:29 -0400
> Subject: [muglo] pdf
> From: Hawk <taylorc547@xxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> I sometimes run across websites that have things I want, like agendas,
> available but they're PDF files. Is there any way to open PDF files? I can't
> seem to do it. jim
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:48:36 -0400
> Subject: [muglo] Re: pdf
> From: r weaver <weaverrw@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> 
> Just get Adobe Reader (it's a free download) from adobe.com
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
>>From: Hawk <taylorc547@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>Reply-To: muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:39:29 -0400
>>To: <muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: [muglo] pdf
>>
>>I sometimes run across websites that have things I want, like agendas,
>>available but they're PDF files. Is there any way to open PDF files? I can't
>>seem to do it. jim
>>
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> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Dave Bonhoff <gtidave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:42:21 -0400
> 
> NOOOOooo!!!!!!!!!
> 
> Ammonia is bad for LCD's!  Alcohol is bad for LCD's!  Some paper can  
> be abrasive to LCD's!  And water won't clean.  Get a proper screen  
> cleaner that is formulated for LCD's.  I use a product called "iKlear  
> Apple Polish"  It is Apple recommended.  It came in a package that  
> includes 5 oz. (150 mL) pump bottle, a large cleaning cloth (micro- 
> chamois), a small cleaning cloth and 6 travel packs.
> 
> www.KlearScreen.com
> 
> There are other products available, this is just the one I have  
> access to and KNOW is approved by Apple (and other manufacturers I  
> believe).  Consider the REPLACEMENT cost of the screen when  
> purchasing a cleaner and cloth...
> 
> Dave
> 
> On 5-Jun-06, at 15:00, Ilbert Walker wrote:
> 
> 
>>Windex ahoy !?  Spring Cleaning time - Screen Cleaning time ?
>>This may have been raised in the past .
>>
>>But what type of cleaner is recommended for Apple Cinema Displays? To
>>minimize any damage.
>>
>>Is Windex suitably non abrasive ?  Or maybe just plain water ? Or a
>>Vinegar or Ammonia mix?
>>
>>Suggestions anyone ?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Ilbert
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Gerhard <gerhardk@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: pdf
> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:46:15 -0400
> 
> If you are using OS X there is a program called Preview included and  
> it reads PDF files amongst other things.  You can also choose to  
> download Adobe Acrobat Reader from the Adobe site and this is the  
> program made for PDFs.
> 
> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
> 
> Gerhard
> 
> 
> On Jun 5, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Hawk wrote:
> 
> 
>>I sometimes run across websites that have things I want, like agendas,
>>available but they're PDF files. Is there any way to open PDF  
>>files? I can't
>>seem to do it. jim
>>
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:58:44 -0400
> From: "Eric Dunbar" <eric.dunbar@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
> 
> Distilled water would be my liquid of choice and I'd be using a
> lint-free cloth or tissues (e.g. KimWipes(r)
> <http://www.escience.ca/eTool/RENDER/1/2575/346/11355.html>).
> 
> No salts to leave behind any deposit. No contaminants (unless your
> source of distilled water is dirty ;-). And an easy place to get a
> "free" (aside from all the green house gases generated to drive the
> dehumidifier) waste distilled water is from your friendly old
> dehumidifier in the basement.
> 
> I'd avoid harsher liquids like Windex/ammonia or more concentrated
> alcohol-based cleaners.
> 
> PS Your user manual probably has cleaning recommendations (and, I
> suspect they'll be along the lines of... use water and a lint-free
> cloth ;-).
> 
> Eric.
> 
> On 05/06/06, Ilbert Walker <ilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>>Windex ahoy !?  Spring Cleaning time - Screen Cleaning time ?
>>This may have been raised in the past .
>>
>>But what type of cleaner is recommended for Apple Cinema Displays? To
>>minimize any damage.
>>
>>Is Windex suitably non abrasive ?  Or maybe just plain water ? Or a
>>Vinegar or Ammonia mix?
>>
>>Suggestions anyone ?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Ilbert
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Ilbert Walker <ilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 16:00:40 -0400
> 
> Thanks Dave - for this useful advice .
> 
> Will try to buy.  I gather Mac Outpost stock it
> 
> Glad I put up my message - before ruining my screen !
> 
> Thanks again '
> 
> 
> Ilbert
> 
> And a final thought from Walker's Wit & Wisdom ? :-)
> 
> Every man/woman I meet is in some way my superior; and in that I can
> learn of them.      Emerson.(PC modified !)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 5 Jun 2006, at 3:42 PM, Dave Bonhoff wrote:
> 
> 
>>NOOOOooo!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>Ammonia is bad for LCD's!  Alcohol is bad for LCD's!  Some paper can
>>be abrasive to LCD's!  And water won't clean.  Get a proper screen
>>cleaner that is formulated for LCD's.  I use a product called "iKlear
>>Apple Polish"  It is Apple recommended.  It came in a package that
>>includes 5 oz. (150 mL) pump bottle, a large cleaning cloth (micro-
>>chamois), a small cleaning cloth and 6 travel packs.
>>
>>www.KlearScreen.com
>>
>>There are other products available, this is just the one I have
>>access to and KNOW is approved by Apple (and other manufacturers I
>>believe).  Consider the REPLACEMENT cost of the screen when
>>purchasing a cleaner and cloth...
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>On 5-Jun-06, at 15:00, Ilbert Walker wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Windex ahoy !?  Spring Cleaning time - Screen Cleaning time ?
>>>This may have been raised in the past .
>>>
>>>But what type of cleaner is recommended for Apple Cinema Displays? To
>>>minimize any damage.
>>>
>>>Is Windex suitably non abrasive ?  Or maybe just plain water ? Or a
>>>Vinegar or Ammonia mix?
>>>
>>>Suggestions anyone ?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Ilbert
>>>
>>
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: doug rogers <dougsamu@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:59:59 -0400
> 
> 
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> 
>   and
> 
> ScreenCleaner Pro can be found here:
> 
> http://www.AmbrosiaSW.com/utilities/freebies/
> 
> 
> 
> Why are Humans the only primates with chins and nuclear weapons?
>         __________<http://home.golden.net/~samu>__________
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 16:10:37 -0400
> Subject: [muglo] Re: pdf
> From: Hawk <taylorc547@xxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> I'm using OS 9.2.
> I've downloaded adobe  reader in the past and never seemed to get it to
> work. jim
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 16:11:51 -0400
> Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
> From: Hawk <taylorc547@xxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> My wife got sucked into buying a "special cleaner and cloth" when we
> purchased a new LCD TV. I wonder if that would work on computer screens as
> well? jim
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Keith Reedy <WA9DRO@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: pdf
> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 16:16:18 -0400
> 
> Preview seems to open them fine.
> Keith Reedy
> WA9DRO@xxxxxxxxx
> God gives his best to those who leave the choice with him--J. Hudson  
> Taylor
> Mac Voiceover list
> http://lists.icanworkthisthing.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoiceover
> 
> 
> On Jun 5, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Hawk wrote:
> 
> 
>>I sometimes run across websites that have things I want, like agendas,
>>available but they're PDF files. Is there any way to open PDF  
>>files? I can't
>>seem to do it. jim
>>
>>_________________________________________________
>>
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>>
>>        http://www.freewebs.com/muglo/joinus.html
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> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Ilbert Walker <ilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 16:26:58 -0400
> 
> Thanks for this 'inexpensive altenative ' reply, Eric
> 
> Will try
> 
> Ilbert
> 
> 
> On 5 Jun 2006, at 3:58 PM, Eric Dunbar wrote:
> 
> 
>>Distilled water would be my liquid of choice and I'd be using a
>>lint-free cloth or tissues (e.g. KimWipes(r)
>><http://www.escience.ca/eTool/RENDER/1/2575/346/11355.html>).
>>
>>No salts to leave behind any deposit. No contaminants (unless your
>>source of distilled water is dirty ;-). And an easy place to get a
>>"free" (aside from all the green house gases generated to drive the
>>dehumidifier) waste distilled water is from your friendly old
>>dehumidifier in the basement.
>>
>>I'd avoid harsher liquids like Windex/ammonia or more concentrated
>>alcohol-based cleaners.
>>
>>PS Your user manual probably has cleaning recommendations (and, I
>>suspect they'll be along the lines of... use water and a lint-free
>>cloth ;-).
>>
>>Eric.
>>
>>On 05/06/06, Ilbert Walker <ilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Windex ahoy !?  Spring Cleaning time - Screen Cleaning time ?
>>>This may have been raised in the past .
>>>
>>>But what type of cleaner is recommended for Apple Cinema Displays? To
>>>minimize any damage.
>>>
>>>Is Windex suitably non abrasive ?  Or maybe just plain water ? Or a
>>>Vinegar or Ammonia mix?
>>>
>>>Suggestions anyone ?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Ilbert
>>>
>>
>>_________________________________________________
>>
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>>
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 16:36:11 -0400
> From: Leith Peterson <leithriver7@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
> 
> I can't find anything in my iBook clamshell instructions on cleaning. 
> I got my iBook G3/900 second hand, and I don't believe I got an 
> instruction manual with it.  I could probably find the answer if I 
> did a bunch of digging on the web, but can anybody tell me off the 
> top of their head if the following cleaner will work with both these 
> screens?
> 
> Kensington Screen Guardian
> 
> "Non-abrasive cleaner for notebooks, anti-glare and polarized 
> computer screens."
> 
> There is an asterick besides the above info and then it says "Some 
> exceptions.  Consult hardware manufacturer before use."
> 
> I can't remember whether I got this cleaner for my 7300 or iBook 
> clamshell.  I believe I got it for my iBook clamshell and the rep at 
> the now defunct CompuSmart on Fanshawe Park Rd had recommended it to 
> me.  She said to use it with a lint free cloth.  I got the lint free 
> kind that you use to clean cars.  They're called auto detailing 
> cloths or something like that.
> 
> Please advise.  Thanks.
> 
> Leith
> 
> 
>>My wife got sucked into buying a "special cleaner and cloth" when we
>>purchased a new LCD TV. I wonder if that would work on computer screens as
>>well? jim
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: doug rogers <dougsamu@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 16:43:15 -0400
> 
> 
> On 06-05-06, at 4:26 PM, Ilbert Walker wrote:
> 
> 
>>Thanks for this 'inexpensive altenative '
> 
> 
> http://screenclean.j1media.com/lick.html
> 
>   There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in.
> __________<http://home.golden.net/~samu>__________
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Biti <Biti@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 18:36:42 -0400
> 
> I have used flat screen displays, powerbooks or displays, for years 
> (since my first PB in 1989) and wouldn't consider cleaning with 
> anything but a clean soft cotton cloth made slightly damp with water. 
> That is in line with manufacturers' instructions, Tap water won't 
> damage your display. Just don't feel you have to clean every week.
> 
> Keep it very gentle and don't press hard.
> 
> Don't let it get dirty, is the bottom line. No fingers on the monitor, 
> no spraying it inadvertently with fruit juice, etc.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Biti
> 
> 
> On Jun 5, 2006, at 4:43 PM, doug rogers wrote:
> 
> 
>>On 06-05-06, at 4:26 PM, Ilbert Walker wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Thanks for this 'inexpensive altenative '
>>
>>http://screenclean.j1media.com/lick.html
>>
>>  There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in.
>>__________<http://home.golden.net/~samu>__________
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Ilbert Walker <ilbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 20:17:33 -0400
> 
> Thanks for this additional input - and for all the others who have  
> responded here to my query.
> 
> How fortunate we are to have such a useful local service !
> 
> Ilbert
> 
> 
> On 5 Jun 2006, at 6:36 PM, Biti wrote:
> 
> 
>>I have used flat screen displays, powerbooks or displays, for years
>>(since my first PB in 1989) and wouldn't consider cleaning with
>>anything but a clean soft cotton cloth made slightly damp with water.
>>That is in line with manufacturers' instructions, Tap water won't
>>damage your display. Just don't feel you have to clean every week.
>>
>>Keep it very gentle and don't press hard.
>>
>>Don't let it get dirty, is the bottom line. No fingers on the monitor,
>>no spraying it inadvertently with fruit juice, etc.
>>
>>HTH
>>
>>Biti
>>
>>
>>On Jun 5, 2006, at 4:43 PM, doug rogers wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>On 06-05-06, at 4:26 PM, Ilbert Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks for this 'inexpensive altenative '
>>>>
>>>
>>>http://screenclean.j1media.com/lick.html
>>>
>>>  There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in.
>>>__________<http://home.golden.net/~samu>__________
>>>
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Dave Bonhoff <gtidave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 21:20:53 -0400
> 
> It might be OK, as long as it doesn't contain alcohol or ammonium.   
> Many screen cleaners contain alcohol which can damage the anti- 
> reflective coating on Apple LCD's.  The cloth is probably safe.
> 
> Dave
> 
> On 5-Jun-06, at 16:11, Hawk wrote:
> 
> 
>>My wife got sucked into buying a "special cleaner and cloth" when we
>>purchased a new LCD TV. I wonder if that would work on computer  
>>screens as
>>well? jim
>>
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>>
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> From: Dave Bonhoff <gtidave@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [muglo] Re: Screen cleaners?
> Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 21:47:26 -0400
> 
> It should be fine.
> Dave
> 
> On 5-Jun-06, at 16:36, Leith Peterson wrote:
> 
> 
>>I can't find anything in my iBook clamshell instructions on cleaning.
>>I got my iBook G3/900 second hand, and I don't believe I got an
>>instruction manual with it.  I could probably find the answer if I
>>did a bunch of digging on the web, but can anybody tell me off the
>>top of their head if the following cleaner will work with both these
>>screens?
>>
>>Kensington Screen Guardian
>>
>>"Non-abrasive cleaner for notebooks, anti-glare and polarized
>>computer screens."
>>
>>There is an asterick besides the above info and then it says "Some
>>exceptions.  Consult hardware manufacturer before use."
>>
>>I can't remember whether I got this cleaner for my 7300 or iBook
>>clamshell.  I believe I got it for my iBook clamshell and the rep at
>>the now defunct CompuSmart on Fanshawe Park Rd had recommended it to
>>me.  She said to use it with a lint free cloth.  I got the lint free
>>kind that you use to clean cars.  They're called auto detailing
>>cloths or something like that.
>>
>>Please advise.  Thanks.
>>
>>Leith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
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