It seems that most of the messages and questions here at MUGLO are traceable to poor design of hardware/software by programming nerds' ignoring or being unaware of how end users really use their products. This was reinforced by my reading of recently published The Human Factor by Vicente, a U of T ergonomics prof - and confirmed my own experience teaching the subject of industrial design, communication and the GUI. He quotes research info which refutes the myth (according to him) that leaving a computer on 24/7 prevents motherboard wear and tear by turning off one's computer when not in use at night etc . Similar to the reason why cities are illuminated by office flouorescents left burning all through the night. His research states that computers left on 24/7 last on average 2.3 years versus 9.6 years of life for computers turned off when not in use . Working on the old mother board/screen burnout myths, I've been leaving my G5 on 24/7 , which also saves me the hassle of restarting etc . I don't wish to have the expense of the G5 again , but I guess computers do change significantly in 2.3 years ? Would be interested to hear your practices, comments or recommendations. BTW I can really recommend a reading of Vicente's book - explains and justifies much of the frustrations of technophopia! :) Ilbert And a final thought from Walker's Wit & Wisdom ? :-) Nils carborundum illegitimi ? (Don't let the bastards grind you down!) _________________________________________________ For information concerning the MUGLO List just click on http://muglo.on.ca/Pages/joinus.html Our Archives can be viewed at //www.freelists.org/archives/muglo Don't forget to periodically check our web site at: http://muglo.on.ca/