[mso] Re: Standard Dates in Excel

  • From: pksun24@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 14:52:06 +0000 (UTC)

Gil, 

I am a technology coordinator for Adult Basic Education Support programs in 
Massachusetts. I do not presently teach students directly; rather I work with 
the teachers on integrating tech into the classrooms. I have previously taught 
at various levels and have my Master's Degree. I have used Shelly-Cashman 
series and like them myself and have many, but some of them get to be rather 
advanced for some students. Also, it seemed Michael was looking for something 
for himself, and not as a teaching book and I feel that those books are great 
for a classroom environment, but if someone if just looking for information on 
a certain aspect of Excel, such as graphs, then they are overkill, which is 
also why I recommended just utilizing the Internet. The important issue is 
Michael's abilities, his needs, and why he hasn't liked what he has already 
found. Many of the books I recommended are too easy for me also, but I am not 
the end user 

Patty 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gil" <gil@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Cc: gil@xxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:29:45 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [mso] Re: Standard Dates in Excel 

Patty, 

I know you addressed this to Michael, but I'll "chime in" with my comments: 

For me, the Shelly-Cashman books are on Amazon and that's where I get mine. 
Great books to follow along with. I just counted up my books from this 
publisher and I have eight - Access (2), Excel (3), Powerpoint (1) and 
Dreamweaver CS3 (2): (okay - I'm outdated on the last one). 

I agree with you on the online material versus books; however, there are 
some things I prefer to have a book in front of me - like what we're 
discussing. 

As to the Dummies series - they are just too simple for my needs. That is 
not a knock against them because they offer great things for the appropriate 
people. I do like their online tips though. 

I've already discussed the poor quality of the New Perspectives series. 

You say you're an educator. At what level and what do you teach? I'd love to 
be a college instructor in Microsoft Office, but in my state - one is 
required to have 4,000 hours of practical experience. I'm assuming that's in 
teaching and not sure how to get that - unless it's at the K-12 level. 

Gil 



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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:12 AM 
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Subject: [mso] Re: Standard Dates in Excel 


Hi Michael 

The suggestions you've received so far are good. I also like Shelly-Cashman 
series. I'm assuming that they are available on sites such as Amazon. As an 
educator, I've always received them directly from the publishers. I actually 
like the Dummy series. I'd be curious though before recommending anything as 
to what you didn't like about what you've already found. Were they too 
simple, too hard, too much, not enough info, too much text, not enough 
pictures, not relevant? It's hard to recommend something without knowing 
what your needs are. I have found the Internet to actually be a better 
source of information than books lately, because it tends to be more up to 
date information. Text outdates itself pretty fast in technology. Microsoft 
itself has great tutorials, including videos and there are many other 
excellent sites. I can recommend more if you'd like. 



Patty Ball 

Reg Tech Coordinator 

Northeast System for Adult Basic Education Support 

Lawrence, MA 

978-738-7303 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael St. Angelo" <mstangelo5@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:27:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [mso] Re: Standard Dates in Excel 

Dear Patty: 
I use Excel 2007 and wondering there is a good book on how to use this 
program. Most books I see at the bookstore are not very good. � I need to 
know how to use graphs. � Help!! 
Thank you. 
Michael St. Angelo 
Practice Administrator 


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