[mso] Re: Spelling Checker
- From: birdiebirdie@xxxxxxxxxxx (Alex Wilson)
- To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:46:21 +0200
Hi Greg,
I've had a quick read but I've got to over something like this
several times. One comment though. When I was referring to
Board, I didn't mean Motherboard but rather Keyboard being set to
German.
Alex
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg Chapman" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 8:50 PM
Subject: [mso] Re: Spelling Checker
>
> I can't give a full explanation of this process but I do
believe I have
> something to say that might help. Word is a multi-language,
> multi-character set tool. That said, it's a unicode processor.
Said
> another way, it understands double byte character sets and is,
> therefore, dependent on a variety of settings supplied by the
operating
> system's settings which are, in turn, harvested from the
hardware at
> boot time. 256 characters (ASCII) is not sufficient to handle
different
> character sets cleanly (note that I didn't say alphabet. A
character set
> is distinct from an alphabet for several reasons). For those
who don't
> know already, Unicode processing requires a couple pieces of
information
> for renderers and spelling tools to work from;, the language
code
> (US-English is 1033, for example), the passing of an escape
character
> for each double byte passed (\u or %u) then two hexadecimal
bytes of
> information to describe the character.
>
> Outlook Express, however, uses Font Association based on
regional
> settings to determine the code page to load. It is not a pure
unicode
> processor. It's ability to work with different character sets
is limited
> to reading through the addition of downloaded language fonts.
Authoring
> with OE is limited to the localized installation of OE and the
selected
> code page for font association. Natively, analyzing characters
is done a
> byte at a time. Processing this information requires no
language code
> and any character from 0 to 256 can be passed. For those who
code, you
> can see the entire ASCII character set using this VBScript code
snippet:
>
> Dim i
>
> On Error Resume Next
>
> For i=3D0 to 256
> Select Case i
> Case 8
> wscript.echo "Backspace, Not Visible"
> Case 9
> wscript.echo "Tab, Not Visible"
> Case 10
> wscript.echo "Line Feed, Not Visible"
> Case 13
> wscript.echo "Carriage Return, Not Visible"
> Case Else
> wscript.echo Chr(i)
> End Select
> Next
>
> Save the above to a text file called charset.vbs to a directory
on your
> system then open a command prompt and type:
> Cscript <path to directory>\charset.vbs
>
> If you want to see what that output looks like, you can cause a
file to
> be created from the command:
>
> Cscript <path to directory>\charset.vbs ><path to
directory>\charset.txt
>
> When executed, you should see a rush of activity in the prompt.
There
> will be several blank lines and some rectangular characters in
that
> activity. These represent ASCII characters that are not
supported in
> Windows. The rest of what you see should reflect all the
characters on
> your keyboard including those that are escaped by the shift
key. These
> also define the limits of OE when spell checking on a
US-English
> installation.
>
> Having the motherboard set to German isn't likely to affect OE
for most
> operations. Having it set for Word has a profound impact since
it is a
> purer Unicode processor.
>
> Both programs may use the same spelling checker but they both
use it in
> different ways. Also note that everything I've written above
doesn't
> address a less commonly used (thse days) standard called ANSI.
ANSI is a
> terminal based character set that is most commonly used on our
systems
> by holding down the Alt key while typing in 4 characters from
the
> numeric keypad, for instance,Alt 0222 =3D=DE. These characters
are not
> checked by ASCII spellchecking. Also note that the charset.txt
file you
> created above has a different character at line 222 than you
got with
> this ANSI excape sequence.
>
> Hope that starts to shed light on the possible differences!
>
> Greg Chapman
> http://www.mousetrax.com=20
> "Counting in binary is as easy as 01, 10, 11!
> With thinking this clear, is coding really a good idea?"
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> > [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Wilson
> > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 11:26 AM
> > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [mso] Re: Spelling Checker
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Hi Linda,
> >=20
> > Well that's really strange because it won't work in word=20
> > unless I change the board to English. I can't do that=20
> > because then all my amlauts are missing and the other keys=20
> > are mixed up. You don't actually need the amlauts because=20
> > you can write using two letters which indicates the amlaut=20
> > but because of the key arrangement it mixes the charactors=20
> > up. I can get an English board og course when I next over to
England.
> >=20
> > I agree that if it is the same dictionary it should work
in=20
> > both programs. As I have said I could swear that I used
to=20
> > use the Speller in Word.
> >=20
> > I wonder what's up.
> >=20
> > Alex
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Linda Johnson" <linda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 2:50 PM
> > Subject: [mso] Re: Spelling Checker
> >=20
> >=20
> > >
> > > The spellchecker you use in Outlook Express IS Word's
> > spellchecker, so
> > > if it works in one it would work in both
> > >
> > > Linda
> > > Publisher ~ ABC ~ All 'Bout Computers
> > > Owner ~ Linda's Computer Stop=20
> > > http://personal-computer-tutor.com/main.htm
> > > Author/Teacher ~ MS Office EBooks/Classes=20
> > > http://personal-computer-tutor.com/services.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:mso-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf Of Alex Wilson
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 3:51 AM
> > > To: mso@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [mso] Spelling Checker
> > >
> > >
> > > I have managed to resolve the Spelling Checker problem I
had.
> > It seems
> > > that as I have a German board using English software i.e.
> > Windows 98
> > > English Version this function is not available.
> > > When I changed the board to English I found that the
checker
> > was working
> > > OK.
> > >
> > > This is strange because I am almost 100% certain that I was
> > able to use
> > > the checker with an English board. I really don't see why
it
> > can't
> > > check text so long as I don't use amlauts. Perhaps it was
only
> > in the
> > > email Outlook Express that this was and still is available
> > because I
> > > have tried it. If Windows can do it in Outlook Express it
does
> > seem
> > > strange that it cannot do it in Word.
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > >
> > >
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