Barrie said: >> I'm beginning to think that there will be more 'Duchesses' in 5 inch gauge > than there were in 4 foot 8 and a half inches! Oh heck - I thought I was joining an elite group, a select few, rising above the common 'erd!!< There was a pic in EIM recently of an exhibition that had about 4 on show....... There's certainly more working ones in 5 inch gauge now than there are working ones in 12 inch to the foot scale. They seem a very popular loco to build - rightly, too! I know too, that I don't have the patience or skill necessary.... Peter Chadwick Swindon MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.