The streamlined Duchess had the 'upside down bathtub'. I thought they looked much better in British Railways days without the streamlining. Duke of Gloucester was a different beast altogether. It was built to replace 'Princess Anne' which was destroyed in the Harrow disaster of 1952, and was itself a rebuild of the turbine driven pacific. Duke of Gloucester is a 3 cylinder pacific: Duchesses are 4 cylinder. Then we had Bulleids 'Merchant Navy' and 'West Country/ Battle of Britain' classes. Popularly referred to in their original form as 'Spam cans', I think they look better as rebuilt by British Railways. For real ugliness, there's Bulleid's Q1 0-6-0, of course. ---------- Zarlink Semiconductor Limited is a Company registered in England and Wales under number 00705031 with its registered office at Cheney Manor, Swindon, Wilts SN2 2QW, England. This email is confidential and may contain information that is privileged and exempt from disclosure by law. If you have received it in error, please contact the sender immediately by return email and then delete it from your system; you should not copy it or disclose its contents to anyone. Emails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. Anyone who communicates with us by email is taken to accept these risks. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.