Hi John I had to go a way and think about this for a few days, hence the delay in replying! But you are perfectly right, and in fact I've just been looking at the diagram in Martin Evans' book. He shows the crank on the back centre (piston at end of stroke), with the slide in forward gear. The eccentric is on front centre, and the die block is halfway up the slide, in line with the pivot. In this position the valve is clearly open to lead steam, and it wouldn't matter whether the engine was in forward, mid or reverse gear, the die block would stay exactly where it is and the lead would remain constant. All of this is only of academic interest, as my two locos either have or will have Walschaert's gear, but it's good to have an understanding of different types of motion. Regards Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pagett" <john.pagett@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 7:02 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Mouland Valve Gear > The lead (and lap) comes from the fact that the drive for the valverod > comes from below the slide. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.7 - Release Date: 01/03/2005 MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.