[macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons

  • From: "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:40:04 -0800

First of all I want to thank you very much for all your help and you have a
great knowledge of the v o and macs.

Now, what you had me do is great for reading what each radio button is and
thanks for the help again.
Now,  after I am on a web site with lets say 40 radio buttons and I went
through and red them all and now I want to go back 22 radio buttons it would
be nice to have a radio button in the rotor like the check box button to do
this.  Don't you think?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 09:31
> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
> 
> I am afraid I don't understand why you need to do that. You can see the
> radio buttons in the form controls but not the schedules because there
> is too much information under each radio button for them just to have a
> label so you can jump between them in the rotor. I just spent quite a
> bit of time on this because I thought you had an accessibility problem.
> If you are handicapped so that it is hard for you to do vo-right-arrow
> then yes you do have an accessibilityu problem and we can address
> workarounds for this and i'll be happy to help you with that as will
> others on this list. Otherwise, it appears to me you are simply talking
> about something you wanted to do for your convenience, something that I
> don't even see saving all that much time and effort. I don't mean to be
> harsh or rude, but could you please explain why this was so necessary?
> Again, if you have a disability that makes all this movement difficult
> for you, I am totally willing to continue helping you!
> 
> Cheryl
> 
> May the words of my mouth
> and the meditation of my heart
> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> my rock and my Redeemer.
> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 11, 2013, at 11:17 AM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Yes I can do that also I just did it, but I want to just jump from
> radio
> > button to radio button like you can do with a check box if you choose
> check
> > box in the rotor
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
> >> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
> >> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 09:05
> >> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
> >>
> >> What do you mean it can not be done? I did vo-keys right arrow to
> each
> >> one. Each one has the times, the price, a view link and then "end of
> >> list" and "list eight items"
> >> I just dhose a trip and put it in my basket and it showed up there.
> >> --
> >> Cheryl
> >>
> >> May the words of my mouth
> >> and the meditation of my heart
> >> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> >> my rock and my Redeemer.
> >> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 11, 2013, at 10:58 AM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Good job now on that page with all the trips I just want to jump
> from
> >> radio
> >>> button to radio button and it can not be done
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
> >>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
> >>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 08:55
> >>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
> >>>>
> >>>> Okay, I'm not sure how you did this so I did it step by step.
> >>>> Actually the first set of buttons didn't have a "United States"
> >> choice;
> >>>> there was usa english and usa spanish and of course a bunch of
> >> others
> >>>> for other countries. I chose usa english; these are the buttons
> that
> >>>> could only be read with the vo-shift-h.
> >>>> Next I selected the "yes" radio button.
> >>>> Next, I chose my route, first the starting point and then my
> >>>> destination.
> >>>> Next, I filled in my dates.
> >>>> Next I think this is where I hit the search button; I should have
> >> been
> >>>> writing this as I did each step. I either hit search here or after
> >> the
> >>>> disability info which I have listed next.
> >>>> Next, I did the disability info; how many passeners with a
> >> disability
> >>>> and how many needing to remain in their mobility units.
> >>>> Next I came to the schedule page and there all the radio buttons
> >> showed
> >>>> the schedules and there was a way to go to next day and previous
> >> day.
> >>>> I did the houston/Dallas-Fort Worth just as you did.
> >>>> Tell me what I did that was different than what you did and I can
> >> try
> >>>> it again to replicate your problem.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Cheryl
> >>>>
> >>>> May the words of my mouth
> >>>> and the meditation of my heart
> >>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> >>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
> >>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 10:24 AM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Go to megabus.com and choose united states first,
> >>>>> Now on that page you can make a rout you wish to buy and there is
> >>>> only 2
> >>>>> radio buttons on that page. they say yes radio button and no
> >>>> radiobutton
> >>>>> selected this is asking if there is anyone who needs disability
> >> help.
> >>>>> Now create a one way route I did Houston to dallas fortworth and
> >> when
> >>>> you do
> >>>>> the search you get 8 radio buttons to select which route and
> stop.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
> >>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 08:15
> >>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hmmmm, You told me there were eight radio buttons in one post. I
> >>>> went
> >>>>>> to the link you gave and there were nine buttons and a checkbox.
> >>>> Where
> >>>>>> exactly are you? If you can explain this, I'll be happy to look
> at
> >>>> it
> >>>>>> again. You are using Safari, right? Are you running Mountain
> Lion
> >>>> and
> >>>>>> the latest Safari?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Cheryl
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> May the words of my mouth
> >>>>>> and the meditation of my heart
> >>>>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> >>>>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
> >>>>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 10:01 AM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Your great for taking the time to help, but you must be in a
> >>>>>> different spot.
> >>>>>>> For my page says radio button when I land on one and there is
> no
> >>>> vo
> >>>>>> help
> >>>>>>> tag when I do the command to get the help
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-
> >>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 07:43
> >>>>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Okay, providing I am in the right place, with the nine
> >> "buttons"
> >>>> as
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>> count them, when you ask for help it's good to explain the
> whole
> >>>>>>>> situation. First, these must not exactly be set up as standard
> >>>> radio
> >>>>>>>> buttons because they just say button and not radio button. I
> >> have
> >>>> no
> >>>>>>>> doubt they are radio buttons but something is different on
> this
> >>>>>> website
> >>>>>>>> or they would read as radio buttons.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Secondly, actually these buttons do show up in form fields;
> it's
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>> labels that don't show up not the buttons and the problem
> isn't
> >>>>>> moving
> >>>>>>>> from one button to another but rather knowing what the buttons
> >>>> are.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> now that i know your problem I also see the solution. Do vo-
> >> shift-
> >>>> h
> >>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>> each button; this reads the help tag which fortunately is
> there.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Cheryl
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> May the words of my mouth
> >>>>>>>> and the meditation of my heart
> >>>>>>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> >>>>>>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
> >>>>>>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:30 AM, "George B" <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> They show up in there but you need to know what they are
> tagged
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>> i.e.  yes
> >>>>>>>>> or no for it does not say radio button before it says it
> after
> >>>> what
> >>>>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> tagged for
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:macvoiceover-
> >>>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 07:26
> >>>>>>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Did you try your item chooser?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Cheryl
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> May the words of my mouth
> >>>>>>>>>> and the meditation of my heart
> >>>>>>>>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> >>>>>>>>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
> >>>>>>>>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:24 AM, "George B"
> <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> They were not in the forms fields selection on the rotor
> and
> >> I
> >>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> choose one of 8 radio buttons that part is easy if I get to
> >> the
> >>>>>>>>>> button just
> >>>>>>>>>>> do a v o  spacebar and it is selectted
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:macvoiceover-
> >>>>>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 07:22
> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> radio buttons are usually in with form fields too. How
> many
> >>>>>> radio
> >>>>>>>>>>>> buttons are there supposed to be and do you have to
> activate
> >>>>>>>>>> anything
> >>>>>>>>>>>> or check anything to show more radio buttons. What you are
> >>>>>>>>>> describing
> >>>>>>>>>>>> isn't the standard behavior on websites with voiceover
> >> and/or
> >>>>>>>>>> safari;
> >>>>>>>>>>>> you can usually find all the radio buttons.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheryl
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> May the words of my mouth
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and the meditation of my heart
> >>>>>>>>>>>> be acceptable to You, Lord,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> my rock and my Redeemer.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:11 AM, "George B"
> >> <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, and it only goes to the next thing to speak I mean
> >> next
> >>>>>> line
> >>>>>>>>>> or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> last
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> line.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I can not find a radio button in the rotor selection
> using
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> arrows
> >>>>>>>>>>>> but I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> did see a check box.  where is a rotor button?  Buttons
> >> does
> >>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>> work
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> [mailto:macvoiceover-
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Reedy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 06:57
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: radio buttons
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did you try, VO keys- right, or, left arrow.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Keith Reedy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:53 AM, "George B"
> >>>> <gbmagoo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can I jump from radio button to the next radio
> button
> >>>>>> using
> >>>>>>>>>> mt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> lion and safari
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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