[macvoiceover] Re: iPhone and Voiceover.
- From: Bryan Smart <bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:53:40 -0500
What's working with Navigon like?
When it calculates a route for you, can you review the waypoints and turns
along the route in advance?
Can you use the map to review nearby points of interest?
Bryan
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From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex de Jong
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:35 PM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: iPhone and Voiceover.
I've used wayfinder access and navigon on iPhone. Frankly, i like navigon
better.
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:27 PM, May McDonald
<mcdonald.may@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:mcdonald.may@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Yep, the ones that came with my phone go with me everywhere. Since it's the
annoying kind with the very long cord I just plug the end into my phone and
then put it around my neck.
On 2009-11-10, at 9:25 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
> You carry headphones everywhere with you? I carry too much gear as it is.
>
> Bryan
>
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> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> On Behalf Of May McDonald
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:18 PM
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> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: iPhone and Voiceover.
>
> Smile, that's why I use headphones so I don't have that problem.
> On 2009-11-10, at 9:14 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>
>> The IPhone is very impressive for many reasons. I tried it for a few weeks,
>> and sadly had to return it and go back to my Nokia E71. I'd really like to
>> stick with it, but I can't switch to it for every day use until some version
>> comes out that fixes these problems:
>>
>> Its tough to use touch tones when on a call. If you call some system that
>> needs you to enter an account code, or even press 1 for sales, you need to
>> fumble around for the keypad button, then fumble around for the buttons on
>> the touch keypad. It is easy for phone systems to time out on you while you
>> feel around the screen. Plus, you must hold the phone away from your head
>> while doing all of this, or the IPhone will lock the screen. This problem is
>> compounded by...
>>
>> I like the speech synthesizer, but it isn't loud enough to easily hear when
>> in noisy environments. Working a phone menu or voicemail on speaker phone
>> while out in public isn't easy to manage with the quiet speaker.
>>
>> The battery life is very poor. I understand that you can get extender
>> battery packs, but I wasn't able to try these. With the stock battery, I was
>> barely able to get a day and a half of use, and that was with Bluetooth off,
>> wifi off, 3G off, screen at 0 brightness, etc. Having to turn all of this
>> off was a real downer, as those features are a big reason to own the phone.
>>
>> All of the really cool blind guy software isn't on the IPhone. No KNFB
>> Reader or similar OCR solution, and the IPhone camera wouldn't be up to the
>> task, anyway. No MobileGeo or WayFinder Access, though I did find several
>> GPS apps that provide some varying levels of accessibility, none that
>> matches the speech feedback of the blind-guy versions. I'm sure that more of
>> this kind of software will come in time, though.
>>
>> Not sure what Apple could do to make the touch tone experience better.
>> Perhaps some setting could be added to have the keypad always be visible
>> when you're on a call. It would still be a little cumbersome to use, but
>> this would save a step. Battery packs might help the power issues. The
>> software situation will certainly improve over time.
>>
>> Anyway, the interface is quite a revolutionary approach, and Apple gets huge
>> points for including VoiceOver as a standard feature. The 3rd-party software
>> support is also quite a nice selling point. I don't doubt that the IPhone
>> will improve. I might even keep the next one.
>>
>> As a little post script here, I can't wait to see what sort of accessible
>> GPS apps come to be on the IPhone. Having Mobile Geo or WayFinder Access
>> tell you what's around you is one thing, but it would be so much better if
>> you could run your finger around the screen and get speech feedback about
>> nearby points of interest.
>>
>> Bryan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> On Behalf Of Keith Reedy
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:42 AM
>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [macvoiceover] iPhone and Voiceover.
>>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I have had my iPhone from about 3 weeks after it came out, but, I have just
>> now had the time to learn more about it.
>>
>> Oh yes I have made calls and did a little internet stuff, but, in the last
>> few weeks I have really learned the beauty of this little phone.
>>
>> I have added apps for finding food and motels, finding my location, I have
>> some of my internet sites bookmarked that I check every day and just this
>> weekend added Ebay because there were some things I wanted to watch.
>>
>> I am using facebook, but, I don't use the app, I use Facebook mobile,
>> m.facebook.com<http://m.facebook.com>
>>
>> I use it mostly for reading updates.
>>
>> Just this weekend I chose to learn to use mail, soI have the list on my
>> iPhone, what a hoot.
>>
>> In short, I really like my iPhone.
>>
>> Keith Reedy
>>
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>>
>> God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him. J Hudson Taylor.
>>
>>
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