[macvoiceover] Re: Thoughts on iTunes 8
- From: "David Poehlman" <david.poehlman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 06:57:31 -0400
yeah, I didn't see this in any of the rumors.
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From: "Jacob Schmude" <j.schmude@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 1:08 AM
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Thoughts on iTunes 8
The only thing that I don't like about these slow but mostly complete
improvements is that we get absolutely no hint whatsoever that they're
coming. But, hey, that's Apple for you, they don't let anyone get a
glimpse of what they're up to.
On Sep 9, 2008, at 10:06, Dan Eickmeier wrote:
> And in a way, it's good that these changes in accessibility were
> slow in coming, because when they do get released, they work well.
> On Sep 9, 2008, at 10:15 PM, John Hess wrote:
>
>> Let's look at it this way. this is the first version with access
>> to the store so there are bound to be some bugs. We can only look
>> up from here. And, yes, I have to agree with the comment that this
>> change has got to speak to those who say apple isn't interested in
>> accessibillity. From the day Tiger was released there have ben
>> slow but consistantly forward strides in voiceover accessibillity.
>> I can't wait to demo this for my students.Fantastic.
>> On Sep 9, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everyone
>>> Well, I've been playing with iTunes 8 for a while now and thought
>>> I'd post my thoughts, in case they help someone.
>>> First, the store. Definitely the biggest improvement in iTunes and
>>> so far seems to work pretty well. For those who haven't tried it,
>>> it works just like any other web page would in Safari. You here
>>> "iTunes Store HTML Content" and interact with that and from then
>>> on you might actually think you're in Safari. A couple things to
>>> be aware of in the store that I've found are:
>>> 1. The buy album buttons don't seem to respond to VO+Space, you
>>> have to route the mouse and do a simulated mouse click (vo-shift-
>>> space).
>>> 2. You can't double-click on the price of a song in the songs list
>>> anymore to buy it, as it'll just start playing when you do. Never
>>> fear though, Apple have made this easier. Highlight the song you
>>> want, press vo-shift-m to pull up the shortcut menu, and select
>>> the "buy or get selected songs" menu item. If you're using a
>>> shopping cart (my preferred method now that I can use it) the song
>>> will be added to the cart. If you're using one-click, it'll ask
>>> you if you want to buy the song, yada yada yada, same deal as
>>> before.
>>> Outside of the store though there are a few things I've noticed.
>>> Your library defaults to grid view, I personally set mine back to
>>> list view since grid view doesn't respond well to tabbing around.
>>> But grid view is accessible if you prefer it. I am noticing,
>>> however, some focus issues, in particular if you're using the
>>> store for a while. Voiceover doesn't seem to realize that the
>>> keyboard focus has moved, and doesn't respond. It's a minor
>>> annoyance, as command-tab out then back in will take care of it,
>>> but it is a bit annoying nevertheless. To be clear, the keyboard
>>> focus itself moves just fine, but Voiceover just doesn't seem to
>>> register the change.
>>> I'll let everyone know if I find anymore things to watch out for.
>>> Overall, I'm very impressed despite the few glitches. If nothing
>>> else, this should put an end to the FUD in the blind community
>>> that apple has no real interest in accessibility... and hopefully
>>> make certain organizations chew on their own words.
>>>
>>> essibility framework.
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