I just recently got an IPhone 3gs to replace a Nokia N75 phone. Nothing cingular offered for the N75 was totally accessible with talks 3.54 though some aps were partially accessible. Now all I have to do is figure out where I put that sd card reader and put the n75 sd card in the reader and see if the IPhone will find my contacts on that card and either let me know it found them and allow me to import them or import those for me automatically. One feature I did not like about this transition was that I couldn't save any of my feeds to the SD card but I think I'll be able to find them on the IPhone and add them. Unless that copy memory to smart card command also saved those feeds, I'll find out later this weekend.On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, Chris Hofstader wrote:
If one uses AT&T, they can purchase a Blackjack , a pretty cool Windows based phone plus a screen reader from Code factory for under $200 so, like many other areas, the Apple solution is a bit more expensive than a Windows set up.The price argument, though, isn't exactly fair. AT&T calling plans cost exactly the same whether you use Windows, Symbian and, soon, an iPhone. Meanwhile, the iPhone has many, many more features built-in right out of the box. Plus, even though it has only been around a shorter time, there is a lot of free (as in freedom with a lower case "f" rather as in free beer,) open source and shareware programs for the iPhone and, assuming the program's authors used mostly standard controls (much more likely on the small screen as the standard ones scale far better than custom controls that one might use to look really cool on a desktop outfit.So, stuff you have to pay for (like a screen reader) is already in a Macintosh.Built-in programs include a really cool (according to things Apple has published) universal remote control. People who have read Blind Confidential over the years or followed the work done by the V2 standards committee of which I was a member for a pretty long time, you can easily see just how excited I can get about a highly accessible way to control a whole lot of devices that we blinks either had to guess at, remember a lot or get assistance from a sightie nearby. This is, for people with vision impairment, a tectonic shift in what we can actually expect in future devices designed for the masses but done so in a universal manner so everybody can enjoy using it.The list of other very, very coool things that come with the mainstream Apple phone and, if even half of the marketing babble is true, this is years ahead of the others and, following Apple's behavior lately, it will continue to lead for a long time.So, I toast Apple with the fresh grapefruit juice I made from fruit I picked about a half hour ago!If anyone wants to see just how far I've moved on my opinion need only read the Blind Confidential posts that mention Apple going back three years or so.Happy Hacking, cdh On Jun 10, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Peggy Fleischer wrote:I've had the cost argument three times already today. I don't think it cost any more than a phone plus screenreading software but it seems as though all my windows using friends just hear the word Iphone and think I am saying Expensive. The ears just shut down at that point and they don't even hear the reasons why it may be less expensive to get an Iphone.On Jun 10, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:> if you think about it. it does cost us less really. but that's another > subject huh? lol > > On Jun 10, 2009, at 6:22 PM, Ginny Owens wrote: > > > Can we start an additional Apple list to discuss the ways in which we > > blinks can make enough money to purchase all this gadgetry? <lol> > > > > > > Ginny Owens > > > > Official site: http://www.ginnyowens.com > > > > MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/ginnyowens Be my fan on Facebook: > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ginny-Owens/7671492734 > > > > Be my friend on Facebook: > > http://www.facebook.com/people/Ginny-Owens/742018292 > > > > Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ginnyowens > > > > iLike: http://www.ilike.com/artist/Ginny+Owens > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Reedy > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 10:45 AM > > > > To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Apple - iPhone - Accessibility > > > > Well, > > > > It will be Voiceover on the iPhone, so, it will be fair game. > > > > OK, who will be the first to write a guide on the iPhone for the > > website. If I get one, it won't be until August, so, I'm out, sigh, > > wimper, grown. > > > > Keith Reedy > > > > > > On Jun 9, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Marie Howarth wrote: > > > > > I'm sure the list will be packed with comments come the 19TH. I for > > > > > one will be visiting a store to play with one. it is the future > > > after > > > > > all. and snow leopard will have similar functionality. how cool! > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Keith Reedy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Well, > > > > > > > > > > > > After the 19th you can and let us know what you think. I am still > > > > > > trying to get my mind around typing on one. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keith Reedy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 9, 2009, at 2:59 AM, Cheryl Homiak wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, I want to go play with one!!! The only problem is that if I > > > > > go > > > > > > > play with one I may want to take one home which would mean > > > > > changing > > > > > > > carriers. But I do want to go see one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > > > > > > > > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the > > > > > > link > > > > > > > > below. > > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > > > > > > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the > > > > > > Web > > > > > > > > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > > > > > > > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link > > > > > > > below. > > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > > > > > > > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the > > > > > > > Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > > > > > > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link > > > > > > below. > > > > > > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > > > > > > > > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > > > > > > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the > > > > > > Webinterface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > > > > > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > > > > > > > > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link > > > below. > > > > > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > > > > > > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > > > > > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > > > > > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > > > > > > > > > > Ginny Owens> > Official site: http://www.ginnyowens.com > > MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/ginnyowens> > Be my fan on Facebook: > > http://www.facebook.com/pages/Ginny-Owens/7671492734 > > Be my friend on Facebook: > > http://www.facebook.com/people/Ginny-Owens/742018292> > Follow me on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/ginnyowens > > iLike: http://www.ilike.com/artist/Ginny+Owens> > >
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