Hi Tim, Could you be a bit more specific regarding message alerts? I never checked message alerts, so I don't know what I might change. The issue I'm having is in part the same one as many are having with sites like Audible and the Apple site, i.e. a crash and the machine or vo or something acting like its restarting. And then there is the issue of having to double interact and not being able to read with arrows, having to read with vo plus a and hearing unknown unknown a lot. And when it crashes and you start back upk, you have to read the whole chat from the beginning; no way to get to the end. I'm not familiar with growl. I just set up and aim account and started using Ichat and it seemed to work fine, until the installation of safari 5. So some pointers as to what you're doing or have done to enable efficient use of that application would be greatly appreciated. Mary On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:00:31 -0400, Tim Grady wrote: >Mary, I haven't been following the Ichat thing at all but I can say >that at first it didn't work right for me until I went back into the >message alerts and checked the options again. I think they disabled >some of the growl support and built it directly into Ichat. They seem >to be doing this with Mail, too. >On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 16:26:30 -0700, Mary Otten wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I guess my subject line says it all. On my mac mini, the new upgrade >> for snow leopard did not fix the bugs we've been talking about having >> to do with Ichat and sites like audible, apparently involving something >> to do with java and possibly html rendering. Lots of folks reported >> this. I had been hoping and thinking that there would be a fix >> forthcoming in this maintenance release. but no go. >> >> I hope we don't have to wait long. Ichat, which I use to use a lot, is >> now a real hassle, when it works at all. >> >> Mary >> >>> >>> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >>> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >>> >>> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >>> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >>> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >>> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >>> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >>> >> >> Click on the link below to go to our homepage. >> http://www.icanworkthisthing.com >> >> Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. >> //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> >> Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to >> macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web >> interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >> > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >database 5199 (20100615) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com > > > > > Click on the link below to go to our homepage. > http://www.icanworkthisthing.com > > Manage your subscription by using the web interface on the link below. > //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover > > Users can subscribe to this list by sending email to > macvoiceover-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web > interface at //www.freelists.org/list/macvoiceover >