[macvoiceover] Re: Reading .pdf files
- From: Cheryl Homiak <cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 22:56:28 -0500
Some files can be read that way. But with quite a few, when you interact you
just get something about static text and that’s all you get unless you do the
work-around.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gave me a new heart and life:
His joy for my despairing tears!
And now, every day:
"This I call to mind,
and therefore I have hope:
The steadfast love of the Lord
never ceases;
his mercies never come to an end;
they are new every morning;
great is your faithfulness."
(Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
> On Oct 31, 2014, at 10:51 PM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> So what exactly is the opening with Voiceover off doing?
>
> I did notice that I needed to do an extra level of interacting on PDFs in
> Preview under Yosemite. I interact with the PDF content group, then interact
> again and can read using quicknav set to navigation. I dont’ seem to need to
> do ths second interaction to copy and paste though, so I’m not sure what’s up.
>
> Ian
>
>> On Oct 31, 2014, at 8:59 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I was hoping it would also work with Skim, but it does not.
>>
>> --
>> Cheryl
>>
>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>> thrown in the trash!
>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>> And now, every day:
>> "This I call to mind,
>> and therefore I have hope:
>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>> never ceases;
>> his mercies never come to an end;
>> they are new every morning;
>> great is your faithfulness."
>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2014, at 7:51 PM, Tuscia-Falconer <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I also tried this with Skim but no luck.
>>>
>>> TF
>>>
>>> On 1/11/2014, at 1:24 pm, Cheryl Homiak <cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:cah4110@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>
>>> There is a work-around for this problem. But skim is not a solution. My
>>> experience is that if you are having this problem with a pdf file in
>>> Preview, you will also have it in Skim.
>>>
>>> But in Preview, here’s your work-around. Go to the file you want to read in
>>> finder. Turn voiceover off and then do cmd-o to open the file. You should
>>> now be able to interact and read the file. It appears that this will
>>> continue to work for that file as long as you have Preview open but if you
>>> quit Preview and/or restart your computer, you will have to do this again.
>>>
>>> Also for files that are not picture/image files but that you can’t
>>> initially read with Preview, it usually still works to do cmd-a to select
>>> all in the file, copy with cmd-c, and then paste into Text Edit or some
>>> other application.
>>>
>>> Finally, if you have not already done so, report this to
>>> accessibility@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:accessibility@xxxxxxxxx> and never, never
>>> assume that enough others have reported the problem and your input is
>>> unnecessary.
>>>
>>> Hth.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheryl
>>>
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>> thrown in the trash!
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind,
>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>> never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 31, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Tuscia-Falconer <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Have you tried Skim, though I did not necessarily get better results.
>>>>
>>>> TF
>>>>
>>>> On 1/11/2014, at 11:08 am, Suzanne Erb <suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes, that’s true. I’m concerned about .pdf files that I was able to read
>>>> using Preview, but have not been able to read these same files since
>>>> upgrading. there doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason. Of course, no
>>>> picture files can be read, but I’m sometimes having problems with files
>>>> that I used to be able to read. Again, this is not a consistent problem.
>>>> Suzanne
>>>>> On Oct 31, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Tuscia-Falconer <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> IMO, not the operating system, I find not all pdf files are equal. I
>>>>> think some are more like scans producing images, others have text.
>>>>>
>>>>> TF
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/2014, at 10:08 am, linnette whalen <linnettew@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:linnettew@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Having the same problem! However, also having the same problem on
>>>>> husband’s IMac and it does not have Yosemite.
>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:31 PM, Suzanne Erb <suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:suzerb1@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I’ve found the same. However, I have had a few problems opening some
>>>>>> .pdf files. Some are opening fine, some are not. Has anyone else
>>>>>> experienced this? I have been working around this by opening them i
>>>>>> other programs; but I used to like Preview, and I’d like to like it,
>>>>>> again.
>>>>>> Suzanne
>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Tuscia-Falconer
>>>>>>> <tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>> wrote:In general, I have found the same thing; however, I am having a
>>>>>>> problem with opening some files in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A warning to Keith, you may not want to read this !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After two weeks of Yosemite on my 2008 iMac with 4Gb RAM I have no
>>>>>>> issues that I would complain about.
>>>>>>> The system feels rock solid, no bugs or lock ups with busy busy.
>>>>>>> I would definitely suggest that 4Gb RAM may be a minimum. This is
>>>>>>> because Yosemite uses RAM differently to earlier OS issues, though
>>>>>>> apparently Mavericks was similar.
>>>>>>> Because RAM has the fastest processing speed in the computer, the OS is
>>>>>>> taking advantage of this and fills the RAM ready for use, this is why a
>>>>>>> larger capacity is more beneficial.
>>>>>>> With less RAM there is a longer delay when shifting between
>>>>>>> Applications as as more data is being swapped, particularly if several
>>>>>>> larger Apps are open at the same time.
>>>>>>> So my bottom line is that I get a short delay when moving between Apps
>>>>>>> but once there it is solid.
>>>>>>> Yosemite leaves memory in RAM if there is space so that when you open
>>>>>>> an App again it opens faster.
>>>>>>> Yosemite has also been designed to accept all third party applications
>>>>>>> that Mavericks accepted so you should not have any issues there.
>>>>>>> Other than that it seems most of this upgrade is to do with its look
>>>>>>> which doesn't apply to most of us, and it aligns the different Mac
>>>>>>> platforms together so you can work on your iphone, ipad or imac at the
>>>>>>> same time. This is through the Cloud. You are prompted to add this when
>>>>>>> Yosemite runs for the first time.
>>>>>>> You can also make phone calls through your desk or laptop so long as
>>>>>>> your iphone is within bluetooth reach.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TF
>>>>>>>
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