I read this info to about snow leopard and the gesture features on
the mouse track. This is definitely a clinture for me. I’ll be
buying a mac book pro with snow leopard installed. This new way of
doing things is as revolutionary today as JAWS was back in 1987 when
they introduced the num pad navigation which in its day was a
brilliant way of navigating the screen. But now with the people at
apple, they have taken this concept to the mouse track which will be
great because it will mean less key strokes to learn. It has always
been a struggle for me to learn all those key strokes that I needed
in order to read a web page. Now I want a mac so that I can use the
mouse track which will reduce the amount of key strokes that I need
to know in order to use a computer.
Marco
Canada
From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
]On Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: June 26, 2009 1:45 AM
To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Iphone: historic change in accessibility
Hello,
This is directly from
http://www.apple.com/macosx/accessibility/
Now the trackpad is the screen.
VoiceOver in Mac OS X Snow Leopard offers a breakthrough new
capability: You can control your computer using gestures on a Multi-
Touch trackpad even if you can’t see the screen. The trackpad
surface on your Mac notebook represents the active window on your
computer, so you can touch to hear the item under your finger, drag
to hear items continuously as you move your finger, and flick with
one finger to move to the next or previous item. You’ll hear how
items are arranged on the screen, and you can jump directly to an
item just by touching the corresponding location on the trackpad.
For example, you can drag your finger around the trackpad to learn
how items are arranged in a web page, a spreadsheet, a presentation,
or any document with text. The more you touch, the more information
you gather.
They probably posted this after you visited the site, unless I am
completely misreading what they are saying. It looks to me, however,
that they are incorperating relational facets of VO on the IPhone 3GS.
This is supported further along on the page when they say:
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The rotor.
Instead of forcing you to memorize keyboard shortcuts to navigate
around the screen, VoiceOver offers a unique virtual control called
a rotor. When you turn it — by rotating two fingers on the trackpad
as if you were turning a dial — VoiceOver moves through text based
on a setting you choose. For example, after setting the rotor to
“Word” or “Character,” each time you flick, VoiceOver moves through
the text one word at a time or one character at a time — perfect
when you’re proofreading or editing text.
You can also use the rotor to navigate web pages. When you’re on a
web page, the rotor contains the names of common items, such as
headers, links, tables, images, and more. You select a setting, then
flick up or down to move to the previous or next occurrence of that
item on the page, skipping over items in between.
David Chittenden, MS, CRC, MRCAA
David Poehlman wrote:
this not exactly correct. the touchpad is still a touchpad and
controlls what happens on the screen if they do what they say they
are going to do in their release which I published here not long
after it was posted on the site.
On Jun 25, 2009, at 5:51 AM, David Chittenden wrote:
And, according to Apple's accessibility website, Snow Leopard will
incorporate this same technology in to the new OS. the touch pad
will become the screen, and where you touch will relate to the
visual screen for the same relational referencing. And, flicks and
other gestures will work as well.
I will be purchasing a mac book Pro as soon as I have set aside the
appropriate funds later this year.
Apple is really raising the bar here. Oh, and the same web page also
illustrates that they have been paying attention to many of the
negative reviews from places like the NFB. It really is a good read.
David Chittenden, MS, CRC, MRCAA
Cheryl Homiak wrote:
It really is historic!!! Do you realize that you can now have an
intelligent conversation with a sighted person about orientation on
a device, meaning that when they say something is in the bottom
right corner of your screen that's actually probably where it is?!!!
Just recently I was talking to a tech support person about something
on my computer and she kept telling me to look at various places on
the screen and I had to tell her that location on the screen was
really no help to me. But with the iPhone it is!!! Do you also
realize that you can read the manual and make sense of much of it
without having to translate from mouse-ese to keyboard-ese? I do
realize there are some differences of gestures with vo off and on
but still, there's much less translation needed. Just being able to
locate something on the screen and do an appropriate tap sequence to
open and use it, and then get back to Home with a press of a button,
seems so much more intuitive to me than going through a bunch of
menus. I can't really explain it and maybe it's totally
psychological on my part, but it gives me such a feeling of
otientation to feel that I know where something is on the screen
instead of just maneuvering through menus or doing a keyboard
sequence and having what I want appear without any context. Of
course I know menus and shortcuts are still useful and appropriate;
I'm just saying that using the iPhone gives me a whole new sense of
perspective and integration and orientation.
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