iw oudl if could find the program to give it a whilr smile On Jun 23, 2010, at 7:41 PM, David Poehlman wrote: > well, you have it easy then, copy them directly to the ftp server. > > On Jun 23, 2010, at 2:37 PM, william lomas wrote: > > i have to copy the books from cd's > > On Jun 23, 2010, at 7:30 PM, David Poehlman wrote: > >> so how do you make the content authorized? let's see, how about if we just >> have bookshare and nls put their content on itunes u will that do it? >> >> On Jun 23, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: >> >> Seriously. >> >> And those devices have a good excuse for even those few steps, as they don't >> have always-on Internet access. An iOS device is practically always online, >> so it should download material directly, and skip the steps that are >> required of the digital book players. Instead, it adds even more steps, and >> wastes even more time. Don't know who was the product manager for this, but >> I wonder how they didn't realize these facts when it was being designed. >> >> Bryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of william lomas >> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:43 PM >> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Greg Kearney, ABWA and DAISY Bookworm at NFB >> convention >> >> lol a booksense or stream easier copy straight to device and done >> >> On Jun 23, 2010, at 6:34 PM, David Poehlman wrote: >> >>> sheesh, you use your pc to log in to the server, you upload the book, you >>> use the app on your device to download it. >>> >>> On Jun 23, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: >>> >>> Yikes, no thanks. That's a pain. Can do it, but don't care to. >>> >>> It is easy for an app to include an integrated browser. Anything tha you >>> download with that browser can be accessed by the app, since the download >>> goes in to its sandbox. >>> >>> So, they should let you connect to NLS, Bookshare, etc, and download >>> directly from there. Of course, they'd need to include a framework to >>> decompress zip files, and maybe they don't want to pay for that. Don't know. >>> >>> What I do know is that requiring lots of round about steps, like uploading >>> files to an FTP server, will put off most people to the idea. Imagine >>> explaining to someone "yeh, all you do is download the book from your >>> library, uncompress it, upload it to an FTP server, download it to your >>> phone, and then you're ready to go." Besides the geekery, it's time >>> consuming. >>> >>> Bryan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 1:05 PM >>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Greg Kearney, ABWA and DAISY Bookworm at >>> NFB convention >>> >>> no, you upload the daisy files you want to transfer and it does the >>> transfer. >>> >>> On Jun 23, 2010, at 12:58 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: >>> >>> From their FTP site, or from your own? Or does it link up to the services I >>> talked about through FTP? >>> >>> Also, is it an accessible app that we use through normal VoiceOver >>> interaction, or is it some kind of self-voicing app? >>> >>> Bryan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Poehlman >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:51 PM >>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Greg Kearney, ABWA and DAISY Bookworm at >>> NFB convention >>> >>> it's done via ftp. >>> >>> On Jun 23, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Bryan Smart wrote: >>> >>> What I'll be interested to see is how well it acquires content. I don't >>> think that you can easily transfer arbitrary content in to it via iTunes, >>> and you obviously can't transfer content to the mobile devices directly. >>> >>> What would be particularly spectacular if it integrated with the download >>> services (like Bookshare or NLS Bard in the US, along with other such >>> services around the world), so it could download books directly. >>> >>> Bryan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:macvoiceover-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of william lomas >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 8:21 AM >>> To: macvoiceover@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [macvoiceover] Re: Greg Kearney, ABWA and DAISY Bookworm at >>> NFB convention >>> >>> ah wow now it is complete >>> a daisy reader on iphone wow i ahve tos ee this >>> >>> On Jun 22, 2010, at 1:09 PM, David Poehlman wrote: >>> >>>> can we get a copy to try? >>>> >>>> On Jun 21, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Greg Kearney wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello; >>>> >>>> I will be attending the NFB Convention in Dallas for Association for the >>>> Blind of Western Australia and will be showing our iPHone/iPod Touch/iPad >>>> DAISY Bookworm player to anyone who is interested. Also explaining the >>>> Association for the Blind of Western Australia digital talking book >>>> library service and other digital talking book issues. >>>> >>>> I should be in the hotel starting on the evening of the 2nd of July until >>>> the 6th of July I will be staying at the convention hotel so you can reach >>>> me there. I will post a little Australian flag by my door to make it easy >>>> to find. >>>> >>>> Please feel free to share this email with all who are interested. 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