Some PDFs work brilliantly, like better than a word doc, and the next one sent
by the same person in the same apparent way doesn’t work at all. Probably a
sign that all our technology has reached sentience, and now it just depends on
whether or not the being is grumpy or distracted in the moment.
Also, there is a link in this article about using the cross device editior to
ensure accessibility. I don’t have a Constant Contac account so I can’t try it,
but you could pass it along to your admin.
https://knowledgebase.constantcontact.com/articles/KnowledgeBase/37417-Create-a-screen-reader-friendly-email-with-the-Cross-Device-Editor?lang=en_US
<https://knowledgebase.constantcontact.com/articles/KnowledgeBase/37417-Create-a-screen-reader-friendly-email-with-the-Cross-Device-Editor?lang=en_US>
On Sep 21, 2022, at 11:43 AM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It seems that every program wants to turn a simple text file in to a pdf.
And pdf is a pain!!
Keith Reedy
We are Braille Bible printers,
http://biblesfortheblind.org
Keith Reedy
keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
On Sep 21, 2022, at 11:29 AM, Nicole Hutchins <nkhutch86@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I can certainly ask them to do this for me. I’m close with most of the tech
team who manages this stuff. Thanks for the tips y’all! They are very much
appreciated.
Nicole
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On Sep 21, 2022, at 11:22 AM, Keith Reedy <keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Howdy,
Some times that kind of thing happens here at the ministry with our
newsletter. It is turned in to a pdf and we need to send a text copy to
some one from time to time.
You mite ask your Church if they would mind sending you a text or rtf or
html copy.
Keith Reedy
We are Braille Bible printers,
http://biblesfortheblind.org
Keith Reedy
keithreedy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
On Sep 21, 2022, at 11:16 AM, Nicole Hutchins <nkhutch86@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Ian,
Thanks for these tips. I did just look at the email again and at the
bottom it says sent with constant contact. Should I just ask the
administrators to check the accessibility settings or is there something
in particular I should ask for?
Nicole
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On Sep 21, 2022, at 11:02 AM, Ian Edwards <ianedwards42@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sorry I’m late to the party on this, can you identify which mail service
they’re using? Might be in a tag at the bottom like sent using Mail
Chimp, or sent using Constant Contact. Those are a couple of the big ones
churches use.
Some email sevices turn the content into a pdf image or a jpg image. I
find these make the text disappear as expected, but the way email
programs interpret and insert the images doesn’t tell you it has happened.
There has been an issue lately with the expectation that AI and OCR has
solved everything, so content providers don’t have to worry about
universal access. Philosophy and ideology aside, you should be able to
find out what service is being used and see if there are any
accessibility settings the content creators can engage at their end
before they send it out.
One other thing that compares, there is a site for church musci, CCLI,
and about 10% of the time the chord sheets I try to access are blank to
me. My son who is sighted looks at them and says yup, it’s there and
looks like text like all the other ones, but somehow in the coding
absolutely nothing is being caught by Voiceover. It behaves just as you
described, the text above and below are read, but there is a void in the
middle.
Ian
On Sep 18, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Nicole Hutchins <nkhutch86@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am using an iPhone and I do not have an OCR app. I did have image
descriptions turned off but have turned them on and nothing has changed.
I’m not able to click on the area where the information is. It seems to
read what is above and below the image but I can see there is an image
there with text in it.
Nicole
Sent from Apple Mail for iPhone
On Sep 18, 2022, at 7:33 PM, Kelvin Falconer
<tusciafalconer@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Do you have VOCR ?
It is a small OCR application for VO and is extremely useful for pdf
and images that VO can't read on its' own.
I float through Time and Space like a treeless leaf.
On 19/09/2022, at 11:15 AM, Nicole Hutchins <nkhutch86@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Hi list,
I’m not even sure how to explain this but I’m going to give it a shot.
Whenever my church sends out a community email I’m never able to read
them. I can see they are images with information in them but it
doesn’t read anything to me through VO. Is there a way I could ask
them to re-figure how they send their emails or do their website, and
if so what exactly would I be asking for? I don’t know much about this
stuff. Thanks for any possible tips.
Nicole
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